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So, is there some way for my viking force to have a flying ship?price it up pay for it and you can have it.
Here's one way
Take dragonship as the base item (99200 16th caster level) pretty solid boat, to make it fly magically you can add the fly spell treating the boat as a wondrous itemThat'd add 2000x3 (spell level) x 4 (duration multiplier) *16 (caster level)
483200 total, if I did my math right and didn't mess up from being awake for the last 22 hours
So, is there some way for my viking force to have a flying ship?price it up pay for it and you can have it.Here's one way
Take dragonship as the base item (99200 16th caster level) pretty solid boat, to make it fly magically you can add the fly spell treating the boat as a wondrous item
That'd add 2000x3 (spell level) x 4 (duration multiplier) *16 (caster level)
483200 total, if I did my math right and didn't mess up from being awake for the last 22 hours
Wow, thank you.
So I'm looking for a clarification on the whole army thing:
* we get Leadership as a free feat, with a score of 25.
- That means that we get, per RAW, 135 1st level grunts, and so on and so forth
*GM Wombat states that our first 'tier' of soldiers are 50 1st levels, with the option to consolidate XP and make them 2nd level (am I right on that?)
So does that mean that get everything combined (i.e. 135 from Leadership, plus 50 from Wombat)? Or does one override the other at this point?
I believe the intent was that you effectively couldn't have leadership, and instead got your 'worshiper' base or what have you, which consists of the 1st levels, 3rd levels, 6th levels, and 15th level... or whatever the exact number was. The intent was to have a smaller, more meaningful group, rather than 135 crafters for your guys that matter... or whatever. :)
well, I am giving the Crusader ability to my general... who WILL be near my army... with his other mini army... :3. thats what I am asking.
:P DM answered your question, if you missed it, LIRE. My response was to Lord Manty.
We need less Lords in this thread. I suggest we let the dragon eat them.
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Wow, thank you.So, is there some way for my viking force to have a flying ship?price it up pay for it and you can have it.Here's one way
Take dragonship as the base item (99200 16th caster level) pretty solid boat, to make it fly magically you can add the fly spell treating the boat as a wondrous item
That'd add 2000x3 (spell level) x 4 (duration multiplier) *16 (caster level)
483200 total, if I did my math right and didn't mess up from being awake for the last 22 hours
no problem, I'm happy to help
the dragon may try.
I just ran across this and it makes me sad that I missed the deadline on this.
Edit: Nevermind, I rescind that statement as I just realized that I was misinterpreting the end date. Now to see what I can come up with.
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Fourth time the charm?If I got rid of something else could I get the Bless army ability sooner? I realize this is most likely a no and I can see that as it could open up a whole new can of worms, It is what I'm taking the Divine Commander for, It's just the character I want to make doesn't fit the constraints they give me.Is a 6th level cleric spell, err if you can cast 6th level cleric spells then you can take it.
I really don't understand what your asking?
Bless Army (Su)
At 15th level, a divine commander can raise her holy symbol high and give a blessing to the army she is leading. The divine commander's army gains a +1 bonus to the army's OM and DV. This is a sacred bonus if the warpriest is good-aligned or able to spontaneously cast cure spells, and it is a profane bonus if the warpriest is evil-aligned or able to spontaneously cast inflict spells. Using this ability requires the divine commander to expend two uses of her fervor ability. This bonus lasts for 1 battle, and it must be performed during the tactics phase of the battle. If this is performed when a mass combat is not imminent, the fervor is spent without granting any bonus.
This ability replaces the bonus feat gained at 15th level.
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Here's a class suggestion to our dragon themed army
The dragon rider class, full BAB, all good saves, D10 HD, dragon senses, and did I mention, the ability to ride a gargantuan dragon (not as strong as one would normally be but still very nice especially in gestalt
all in all nice and thematic
can I add the extra humuclous abilities to my clay golum?
I kind of want him to be able to talk, and the only way I've seen to add that ability is 500gp extra on a homuclus
The Dragon-themed army -is- a Dragon. XD
A max sized dragon, if I'm not mistaken. Although... there is a feat for that...
The lieutenant is also a dragon, if I'm not mistaken. The rest though... maybe?
Is there a consolidated list of what is currently taken in terms of alignment and theme?
It looks like there was a point in time where every alignment was spoken for, but then recruitment was reopened.
Everything is available. Some 'themes' are already in use. There's also a more consolidated compilation post for rules and such...
Now news has come to you that once more it has arrived on your plane,
that once more the games will start and one just one, the winning being will Join the ranks of god like inside the Ziggurat. Where power unknown to any planes can be had, where truths that should never be told are said to be hidden. You also hear that others are gathering their powers to take the challenges in an around the Ziggurat of the god Gamers. You must move fast, gather what followers you can and head there by any means. Its location the say in a place called "The World Wound" even now empires are sending army's to seek it, Princes and kings, grate mages and Demons search for it. You need to get there before they, scrying gets nothing but a polite "No" Even the gods themselves seem to be keeping well away? why more to the point why is it here NOW? after all this time, something they said came before even the 1st world. You have to no, you must know, now is the time to act.
Location of the God Games
The Worldwound
A century ago, the nation of Sarkoris was murdered. Today, the fallen nation is a horrific, post-apocalyptic nightmare cloven by a vast canyon that connects Golarion to the demon-haunted reaches of the Abyss. This rift is known as the Worldwound, and through it the demonic hordes pour forth, set on defiling the world of mortals and claiming it for their own. Though the demons have so far been held back at the borders by barbarians and crusaders alike, the region that was once Sarkoris remains a fiendish beachhead on the mortal realm. Worse, the Worldwound itself is slowly growing—and if something isn’t done to halt this blight, the demons it spawns might one day swallow all of Golarion! The odd bit of local wild life shows up, you can use it as target practice for your troops.
====MAKING ALTs======
All PCs and ALTS have to be made on paizo NO 3ed location sheets.
You will need an Alt for.
1: Your PC
2: Any Familiars/Animal companions/Edalons/Mounts/Psicyral/Intelligent Mythic item etc.
3: For your Cohort
4: For each band of your army 1 2 and 3.
5: A Alt of links to your regular summoned things, so I can just look it up.
6: An Alt for your camp, you have 1 Cubed mile on which to encamp, this is your area and no other player can enter it unless you agree to them being in. Once in its up to you to oversee them and get them to go. The area is 50% above ground 50% below. You will have 24 hours in which to make camp. Is a dry barren and hot, waist land.
Rules for making your PC:
1: 25 Point Buy
2: Race, that dos not go over the 21 Race Point build in race builder, If you wish to play a monster you must remake it in Race builder Limit RP 21 as well, then go from there. If you take a race that less then RP21 like Human you can Spend the out lacking RP from its built upto RP max of 21 to add stuff on top.
3: Level 20th both sides of the Gestalt + 10th Level Mythic
4: Templates, you can have 1 template by paying for it with levels on one side of your gestalt.
5: Classes, Any on http://www.d20pfsrd.com/ it has to be on there or its out, SO YES to 3PP and YES to Psionics, and YES to Godlings.
6: 5 traits and 2 Drawbacks. [that right 2]
7: You get the Leadership feat free feat and Leadership score is Max'ed at 25 at the start of game.
8: 4,000,000 gp for items/permanency etc on this character and/or your Amry
9: Magic items, See magic item rules
Rules for Magic Items:
It must be on http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
3pp ok as long as its on http://www.d20pfsrd.com/ and you linked to it.
Stock items ok
Mythic Items OK
Legendary OK
Artefacts NO
Making Items.
Yes
IF you make your own [you need the feats and skills] you get them at crafting price. CL20 Max for items
If you buy bespoke [with the +50% tax CL20 Max for items] or stock items, you pay full price.
+5 max on weapons TH enharncement etc still stands
What dos combing mean, in regard to CL
It works like this,
THE CL for Belt of Tumbling is 1st, Ring of Swimming +5 is CL 2nd
ADD them, now you have CL3 you can keep adding until you get to CL20
Rules for making your Army:
Armys
This is your army brake down.
Any Core, Featured or Uncommon Race is usable. [No Draw Nobles]
templates Yes pay levels.
Race Builder yes RP 11 to build with. [no don't ask for more, bar-humbug]
Band 1 - Grunts
levels 1-2,
You start with 50 1st level grunts
They have 500 XP each. you can give them a zero template of you wish. You can combine 3 to make 1 second level Army MPC.
Band 2 - NCOs
Levels 3-6,
You have 50,000 Xp to spend NPC's in this band.
Band 3 - Officers
Levels 7-12,
You have 250,000 Xp to spend NPC's in this band.
Band 4 - Cohort
Your Cohort is your General, unless you have an officer take the role.
Level 17. You can DROP your CoHorts level and feed the EXP from this into your Army. So a drop from 17 to 16 level Cohort gives you 250,000 XP to spend on any 1 Band of your Army. Do it again down to 15 and you get 175,000 more, cool go on you know you want to. What could be the down side A? hehe
You get Leadership as a free feat and you score is 25 at start of game. This feat can not be taken any any member of your army.
We will be using "Fast" Experience Point leveling HERE
Total money you can spend on your Army is now 2,000,000 Gold just like you. You can take money from that pot to add to your 4,000,000 GP or you can give some to your army.
So the total coin you have to spend is 6,000,000 no more no less, that is unless you take the Rich Parents trait and then you get 900 more.
hehe
Ah, I was under the impression that there would be only one group to represent each of the eight available alignments (Since True Neutral is out of the mix.) and that they were to be on a "first come, first serve" basis.
Totally was the case, but then the DM rescinded that. It's made my army of Magic Girls that much more difficult to resist.
Hmm...that really does open up the possibilities.
I have a Skull & Shackles game to run tonight, but I'll definitely be mulling over the possiblities and work on having an base idea up before the end of tomorrow, although I have a Rise of the Runelords game I'll be playing in tomorrow night.
yes, Kathandrax is a dragon, and his officers are as well. I am using the dragonrider class for some of my people, they're just not ready to be unveiled yet =D
Is there a way to grant a companion, familiar, or cohort a mythic feat?
Complicated. Folks are using Mythic Leadership and Path abilities to do so, I believe. Others aren't. It's a complicated lattice.
Mythic Leadership grants you the ability to add mythic feats to one of those options?
Mythic Leadership Assuming folks -do- have leadership, and it isn't banned out, yup. She/he/it would be tier 5. Your 10 'captains' would also be mythic 1.
Ooooo it's true. They are all M1.
I think ML just became everyone's new best friend. :)
And I feel like that's a problem. Same as when everyone in the party has improved initiative.
True, Hotaru. That being said, there is a bit of human nature in everyone following certain trends. Unless Wombat says otherwise, it's going to be fair to assume that everyone will have Improved/Amazing/Mythic Improved Initiative, and that most, if not all, will be using Mythic Leadership to toughen up their 'army.' This is pretty much designed for a completely over the top battle royale, and most people on these forums are nothing if not good min-maxxers.
Just my 2cp.
Did the ruling on not being able to get access to artifacts get rescinded?
I'm not taking mythic leadership. I'm not even considering it. Nor, for that matter, am I taking any of the initiative feats. for any of my characters.
Omg... Amazing initiative gives me an additional full attack..... Dear. Lord.
Before ppl say anything...I can full attack as a standard action!
ya, if you have 20 levels of mobile fighter, you would be good to go. Just make sure to pick up mythic spring attack.
I always enjoyed the combination of 20th Level Mobile Fighter with 20th Level Monk of the Four Winds for the ability to take three full attack actions a round.
Edit: Four if you include Amazing Initiative from being Mythic in these circumstances.
I thought slow time was limited to making 3 different standard actions?
No real need for spring attack, that chaimn was replaced with item creation feats.
You use a swift action to trade out your normal standard action for three slightly limited standard actions. One of the actions you can take is an attack action. A mobile fighter can take the full attack action as a standard action.
Has the Arcane 20/ Divine 20 / Mythic 10 shown up yet? I'd consider taking that role.
The only Item i'll need is a staff of wish. :-)
Edit: On a lark I decided to do some preliminary calculations. I think a staff of wish is 1,525,400 GP to "buy." This may be the only game where such a thing is a viable purchase.
a staff has to have a minimum of two spells in it
I don't believe I ever read that, but if so i'd put light in it also.
I went to go look for the rule in question and it might be a house rule my home GM always plays with, but the description is that the staves hold "multiple spells"
Either way. It's an easy work around.
So many options. One shotting the pillar could be fun though.
I choose. Wand of disintegrate
True, Hotaru. That being said, there is a bit of human nature in everyone following certain trends. Unless Wombat says otherwise, it's going to be fair to assume that everyone will have Improved/Amazing/Mythic Improved Initiative, and that most, if not all, will be using Mythic Leadership to toughen up their 'army.' This is pretty much designed for a completely over the top battle royale, and most people on these forums are nothing if not good min-maxxers.
Just my 2cp.
I'm not. I have Feats to spend on other things.
Mythic Improved Initiative is good, if boring. Likewise Mythic Leadership.
Personally I'd just rather keep it at "Super Mythic being and their mortal armies do battle" rather than "Super Mythic beings have to have Mythic Leadership or their armies automatically lose".
True, Hotaru. That being said, there is a bit of human nature in everyone following certain trends. Unless Wombat says otherwise, it's going to be fair to assume that everyone will have Improved/Amazing/Mythic Improved Initiative, and that most, if not all, will be using Mythic Leadership to toughen up their 'army.' This is pretty much designed for a completely over the top battle royale, and most people on these forums are nothing if not good min-maxxers.
Just my 2cp.
I'm not. I have Feats to spend on other things.
Mythic Improved Initiative is good, if boring. Likewise Mythic Leadership.
Personally I'd just rather keep it at "Super Mythic being and their mortal armies do battle" rather than "Super Mythic beings have to have Mythic Leadership or their armies automatically lose".
I actually would agree with that, tbh. Should we put Mythic Leadership up for an straight up/down vote to make sure either everyone has it or no one does?
I think it's good for some to have it and some to not have it. It's obviously giving up your own power for the power of your troops. Depending on how much each of those impacts, determines a lot. But it really is a character choice. The problem I have is in that it's not -expensive- to make your army autowin against another army. If that makes sense.
On that same note, I could probably make roughly the same character I'd want to play with a couple hundred thousand and feed the rest to my army. Assuming I were playing :P
I personally don't care if people have it and I don't. I don't think it will matter all that much to what I'm doing.
The thing is, you're essentially giving up 10% of your power (and that's being VERY generous considering it's less than half of the benefit of Mythic, which is less than half the benefit of all your other levels) for a 100% success rate over someone who doesn't take the option.
It's a no-brainer option for this campaign, which is why I don't like it.
PvP is already 100% busted in this game (seriously, trying to do fair PvP in this game is impossible, even factoring out rocket tag), no need to exacerbate it.
I'm clearly past the deadline, but I think I'd go with a mystic theurbe build. Use Mythic Levitate to build a floating fortress. Then have a metric ton of necromancer minions all with lots and lots of undead.
Naraxxmas anyone? :-)
Edit: I could make my cohort one of the self reproducing undead and have a really nasty undead pyramid scheme.
You're not past the deadline (it's November 10th, last I checked).