The Dying City: DM Norv's "Curse of the Crimson Throne"

Game Master The Norv

The classic story of intrigue, magic, and strife in Korvosa, and of five figures caught in the balance of greater forces than they know.

Current Date: Starday, 10th of Lamashan, 4708

Current Map | Flex Time | Loot Tracker | Floorplan for the Rosa in Fiore

Harrow Points and Uses:

Current Harrow Points:
Callie: 3
Korriban: 2
Lantressa: 4
Matoska: 2
Teodor: 3

Flash of Insight: You can spend a Harrow point to attempt a skill check that normally requires training for a skill in which you have no ranks. You gain a one-time +5 bonus to that skill check.

Intelligence Rerolls: You can spend a Harrow point to reroll any one Intelligence-based check. You must abide by the new result, even if it's lower (but you can spend more Harrow points to reroll again if you want to).

Focused Thought: You can reattempt a Knowledge check that you have previously failed. On this attempt, you gain a +10 bonus on the check.


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Male

Happy New Year, all! Sorry for the delayed post, my New Year ended up crazy, and this was my first opportunity to get some time in on the boards. But on we go!


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

I'm probably misinterpreting his actions.


M Human (Ustalavian) Cleric of Groetus 3/Slum Shaman 1/Evangelist of Groetus 5

Does perception work on bluffs? And how would we settle what happens to the box? Disarm attempts?


Female Human (Chelaxian) Fighter 4 (Polearm Master) | HP (0 nonlethal) 41/44 | AC 20 [22 Combat Expertise] | FF 19 | T 11 (13 Combat Expertise) | CMD 20 (22 versus trip) | Fort +5 | Ref +3 | Will +1 | Init +2 | Perc +4

Well Korriban went with a +8 which is his Sense Motive bonus, so I think he just typed perception by mistake.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Yeah, I meant Sense Motive. I mistyped. Sorry.


Male

Fortunately Korriban made a pretty good Diplomacy check, so the priest has taken the box of his own volition. :P

As a general rule, though...try to avoid posting actions that could devolve into any sort of PvP, or that assume particular actions on the part of another player. It's just easier to let them respond in any way they feel fit, and I like to avoid rolls that "attack" other players in any way. (Bluffs and that sort of thing, not such a big deal.) It's just easier when you don't have people to immediately respond to as you do in real life.

On a completely different note, I apologize for the laggard posting on my part lately!! I've been really kicked in the teeth by the new year and getting my rear in gear for a fellowship application, but that's over now, so hopefully we'll be moving a bit more quickly! Thanks for bearing with me.


female | tiefling (pitborn) | sorcerer 8 |HP: 48/50 | AC:14 [17]; T:12; FF:13 [15]| CMB +4, CMD:16 | Fort:+6; Ref:+6; Will:+8 | Init:+2; Perc:+0 Volatile Conduit 1/1 | Beguiling Voice (dc 17) 3/8 | Fascinate (dc 20) 2/2 | Spells: lvl 1 7/8; lvl 2 4/7; lvl 3 3/6; lvl 4 3/4

I wanted to apologize for how short and non-plot driving my posts have been, I've had a hard time getting engaged at first and then the holiday's hit. I'm starting to get there now and if I seem to be flagging again, prod me please.


Male

No worries! It's hard for every character to be engaged at every moment in more RP-driven beats of the story like this one. :)


Male

On the subject of non-stacking bonuses from the boots and the ring: I feel like that's something that your characters would just know/understand, particularly after trying to wear them. There isn't really a good in-game explanation for what that info would "look like" (as far as I know, anyway)--so I assume it's sort of like how people in our world know that if you toss something in the air, it'll fall down eventually.

Wear two things with competence bonuses? Ludicrous, that's not how magic physics work! :P


female | tiefling (pitborn) | sorcerer 8 |HP: 48/50 | AC:14 [17]; T:12; FF:13 [15]| CMB +4, CMD:16 | Fort:+6; Ref:+6; Will:+8 | Init:+2; Perc:+0 Volatile Conduit 1/1 | Beguiling Voice (dc 17) 3/8 | Fascinate (dc 20) 2/2 | Spells: lvl 1 7/8; lvl 2 4/7; lvl 3 3/6; lvl 4 3/4

If Lantressa had ranks in arcana or spellcraft I'd agree, she doesn't though. Still I will acceed to your ruling happily.

Gameplay post coming after sleep.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

You know, I just thought of a way to connect Teo's story with mine. I could say that the gang is attacking people with disease!


Male

Figured I'd move the shopping discussion over here. You can sell the poison, along with the other mundane goods, for half-price pretty easily...there are even apothecaries who have quasi-legitimate reasons to be interested in blue whinnis, so it won't affect your alignment. ;)

As to clothes, how much they cost depends on what you're looking for. Korvosa's a pretty big city, so you can find pretty much any of the mundane clothes listed on this page somewhere. Some of them may give you a bonus to certain social checks, some might just help you blend in, some might do nothing at all but be nice to have...

As to Calistrians: I'm following that now and realized I have to clear something up. There is no temple proper to Calistria within Korvosa; she has a shrine in the Pantheon of Many, but that's about it. There may be a few clerics like Lialda scattered around the city, but they're few and far between...

The following five deities have major temples in Korvosa: Abadar, Asmodeus, Shelyn, Sarenrae, and Pharasma. All the other core deities are represented in the Pantheon of Many, with the exception of Gorum, Lamashtu, and Rovagug, who do not have official representation in the city.


M Human (Ustalavian) Cleric of Groetus 3/Slum Shaman 1/Evangelist of Groetus 5

I kind of want cn Teodor to haggle with the other religions ...there are no secrets if everyone is dead, Norgorberite, etc. That would kind of have to be a solo thing, morally, though.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Okay. Thanks for the updates there, Norv.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Okay, so what's everyone's thoughts on the rest of the stuff?


Male

Awoop. Sorry for the delay, gonna try to address questions over here: my understanding was that you all were going to split up, then reconvene the next morning to:

--shop
--visit the Calistrians/Asmodeans
--pick up Ishani from the Vault of Abadar

...in roughly that order. Sound good?


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Sounds good to me.


Male

@Lantressa: I'm not sure if you had story ideas you wanted to play out with the customer at Helvara's (if so, you can PM me if you prefer); if not, it's up to you! We can play out part of that or not. :)


female | tiefling (pitborn) | sorcerer 8 |HP: 48/50 | AC:14 [17]; T:12; FF:13 [15]| CMB +4, CMD:16 | Fort:+6; Ref:+6; Will:+8 | Init:+2; Perc:+0 Volatile Conduit 1/1 | Beguiling Voice (dc 17) 3/8 | Fascinate (dc 20) 2/2 | Spells: lvl 1 7/8; lvl 2 4/7; lvl 3 3/6; lvl 4 3/4

I was thinking more of a housecall similar to how I entered the game at Ishani's place but ultimately I'm good with whatever really. Would lioe to play through part of it, even if just in PM to keep occupied.


Male

No worries, I wanted to make sure you got some time to roleplay too! Spoilers are fine for now, if we go into "overtime" relative to the other group we could move to PM or similar.

Also, I just have to say how much fun it is to write complete jerkwads. :P


Male

Korriban, I love your attempt to compliment Hell's interior designer. :P


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Thank you. It does seem a bit on the tacky side. I mean, red and spiky? So last season. ;)


Male

I apologize, but a work crisis means I'll probably not get a post in today. We should be fine to continue tomorrow morning, though!


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

It's okay, Norv. Take your time.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

So, should I just sell the pipes of fear? Would give us more funds.


Male

Lantressa: while you can't fascinate the whole crowd, I will let you work it on the nearest people to give everyone else a +2 bonus to checks to move through the crowd. :)

Sorry for the delay; some traveling went a bit sideways.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

No problem, Norv. Take your time.

I think I'll go ahead and sell the pipes.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Just to add, if anyone believes that we need the pipes of haunting, then I can always retcon the sale.


Male

Sorry for the delay, guys--busy couple of days, and I knew that was going to be a long one! :)


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Yeah, I know I made two diplomacy rolls and two sense motive rolls in the same post. I figured that they were two separate situations.


M Human (Ustalavian) Cleric of Groetus 3/Slum Shaman 1/Evangelist of Groetus 5

I'm not trying to kick people out of the meeting, I just imagine it's not everyone's goal in Pathfinder to discuss issues at meetings.


Male

Yeah, the AP actually assumes you guys skip the meeting, though I'm more than happy to roleplay it out. :P

Given the many splits, I'm wondering before continuing: should we shift this to the Flex Time Thread? Been an age since we used that. Or do people think that the results of these activities might influence what you do next?


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

It's okay. I don't mind sitting in the meeting. As for the thread, I would be good with either. I know that Korriban will be chiming in during the meeting. And the results will have some influence.

Also, I thought Selawyn would be joining the meeting to deal with the Asmodians and their contract.


Male

Hmmmm no other responses...guess I'll keep it in the Gameplay, since the outcome of the meeting, etc. might change people's plans of action. :)

All still with us?


Female Human (Chelaxian) Fighter 4 (Polearm Master) | HP (0 nonlethal) 41/44 | AC 20 [22 Combat Expertise] | FF 19 | T 11 (13 Combat Expertise) | CMD 20 (22 versus trip) | Fort +5 | Ref +3 | Will +1 | Init +2 | Perc +4

Still here.


female | tiefling (pitborn) | sorcerer 8 |HP: 48/50 | AC:14 [17]; T:12; FF:13 [15]| CMB +4, CMD:16 | Fort:+6; Ref:+6; Will:+8 | Init:+2; Perc:+0 Volatile Conduit 1/1 | Beguiling Voice (dc 17) 3/8 | Fascinate (dc 20) 2/2 | Spells: lvl 1 7/8; lvl 2 4/7; lvl 3 3/6; lvl 4 3/4

Still here, matters little to me, Lantressa isn't staying for the meeting anyway so what ever I suppose.


Male

Coolio. I'll try to keep all three plotlines moving at the same pace so as to have everyone engaged the whole time.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Hey, Teodor. I have a question. When I pass out the money from selling items, do you take your share? I ask because I remember you saying that you didn't need it.


M Human (Ustalavian) Cleric of Groetus 3/Slum Shaman 1/Evangelist of Groetus 5

He takes it and gives it away.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Oh, that's right. I completely forgot about that.


female | tiefling (pitborn) | sorcerer 8 |HP: 48/50 | AC:14 [17]; T:12; FF:13 [15]| CMB +4, CMD:16 | Fort:+6; Ref:+6; Will:+8 | Init:+2; Perc:+0 Volatile Conduit 1/1 | Beguiling Voice (dc 17) 3/8 | Fascinate (dc 20) 2/2 | Spells: lvl 1 7/8; lvl 2 4/7; lvl 3 3/6; lvl 4 3/4

To save myself having to dig through this too much so I can reply can I get a bit more info on this Rosa in Fiore? I don't know if it's part of the story originally or if it's something added and I assume that the "heir to the Rosa in Fiore" that I'm being asked about is Korriban?

Just want to make sure that I respond appropriately and I found myself confused. Would have asked earlier so I could get a post up today but I kinda forgot and am out of time now. Gotta head to my home game, we're the, I believe, 4th level of Emerald Spire tonight.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

The Rosa isn't part of the original adventure path. It's something that I created that is connected to Korriban's backstory.

As for more info, I'll be more than happy to go through the entire backstory of the Rosa in Fiore and Korriban's family. That way, you can pick and choose what information you think Lantressa would know. And everyone else is free to read it as well. :)

A Lot of Backstory:
The Rosa in Fiore was established around 50 years ago by Kazallin. She was an elf priestess of Calistria who had migrated from Kaer Maga to Korvosa at 151 years old to expand the teachings of her goddess and to make her fortune. She built the Rosa, declaring it a minor temple since she didn't exactly have the funding to build a full temple. A few years later, she fell in love and married a man named Andrezi Balros. Andrezi had moved to Korvosa from Riddleport to make his own fortune. He used to be an expert knife wielding pirate working under Captain Or Sutharla. A couple years after they married, they had Lialda. Lialda grew up learning the ways of her mother and working as a courtesan at the Rosa. At this time, Andrezi became a critic of the Korvosan government, speaking up against the unfairness of it all. When Lialda was still fairly young, Andrezi died. Although, the details related to his death were shrouded in mystery. Even to this day, no one knows why or how he died.

When Lialda was 17, she had been attacked by a man named Gaedren Lamm. The older man tried to have his way with her, but she resisted furiously. Lamm wound up stabbing her and running off. Lialda had survived this ordeal. Unfortunately, the wound made it so that she was unable to bear children. She had since held a grudge against him.

Six months after Lialda had fully taken leadership of the Rosa, she came across a Shoanti man named Falko. He was being ostracized by a mob with an 'Anti-Shoanti' mentality. She rescued him from the mob and took him in. Falko has since sworn fealty to her and the Rosa in Fiore. He became the head bouncer and Lialda's personal bodyguard. There are numerous rumors that Falko also serves Lialda as her sole lover. He has also said that he's actually from the Sklar-Quah.

Meanwhile, nineteen years before the start of the campaign, Korriban was left on the doorsteps of an orphanage. He lived in the orphanage for three years, not knowing his birthday or even if Korriban is his real name. Then, the orphanage burned down under mysterious circumstances. For the next two years after that, Korriban had been living on the streets as an orphan. Then, at the age of five, Korriban met the man who would unknowingly change his life: Gaedren Lamm. Lamm had taken (supposed) pity and offered Korriban a home. A place where he would have food and shelter; a place without fear. Desperate, Korriban agreed and left with him.

However, that was the start of four years that could be described as hell. Back then, Korriban was short and very clumsy. Whenever Lamm sent him to pickpocket someone, Korriban would always seem to mess up in some way, earning him severe punishments. Eventually, Lamm couldn’t handle it anymore. He invited Korriban into his office with a facade of peace, forgiveness, and understanding. However, to Korriban’s shock, Lamm beat him to the point of near death, chucking his body into a rubbish pile. However, Korriban refused to die, limping out of the rubbish, seeking help. That's when Korriban met the other person who would change his life forever. Lialda, who was 29 at this point, saved his life and took him in, raising him and teaching him. The others who reside at the Rosa in Fiore aloud had a hand in raising him.

Korriban had learned from the streets, picking up manuals on different things, especially fencing. When he reached the age of 13, Korriban asked for training to get revenge on Lamm. Lialda, moved by his drive, agreed to teach him the ways of the courtesan. Korriban also trained his skills with a rapier, using the manuals. He became passionate about fencing from the multitude of stories his mother told him about the legendary hero, Blackjack.

When Korriban was fourteen, Kazallin had passed away to join her husband. Korriban continued his training until the age of nineteen when the events of this campaign began.

Among the different residents, another of the more notable is the halfling named Lidda. Lialda had taken her from the streets to live in the brothel and work as a bard, providing entertainment through her lute, her singing voice, and various other services. She also works as a spymaster, commanding a decent size of contacts. She picks up any information she can. She also provides beneficial information to Lialda. There is a rumor among the girls that the Cheliaxian man, Adoros, might be her lover.

Verik Vancaskerkin used to be a high ranking member of the Guard. When the king died, he deserted, deciding to use his talents to aid the less fortunate by passing out meat. Unfortunately, our heroes managed to stop him and revealed that his men had been passing out human meat to the poor. Traumatized, he surrendered. The heroes spoke up in his defense and he was sentenced to few months in prison. When he was released, he was approached by Korriban, who offered him a job. The rouge even returned his equipment. After a few days of thought, Verik decided to become a bodyguard at the Rosa.

Also, yes, Korriban is the heir to the Rosa in Fiore.

I hope this helps you out.


female | tiefling (pitborn) | sorcerer 8 |HP: 48/50 | AC:14 [17]; T:12; FF:13 [15]| CMB +4, CMD:16 | Fort:+6; Ref:+6; Will:+8 | Init:+2; Perc:+0 Volatile Conduit 1/1 | Beguiling Voice (dc 17) 3/8 | Fascinate (dc 20) 2/2 | Spells: lvl 1 7/8; lvl 2 4/7; lvl 3 3/6; lvl 4 3/4

Yep, that helped a lot thanks.


Male

Sorry about that, Lantressa--for some reason I thought you guys had already been to the Rosa! My bad. :S Thanks for providing the info, Korriban.


female | tiefling (pitborn) | sorcerer 8 |HP: 48/50 | AC:14 [17]; T:12; FF:13 [15]| CMB +4, CMD:16 | Fort:+6; Ref:+6; Will:+8 | Init:+2; Perc:+0 Volatile Conduit 1/1 | Beguiling Voice (dc 17) 3/8 | Fascinate (dc 20) 2/2 | Spells: lvl 1 7/8; lvl 2 4/7; lvl 3 3/6; lvl 4 3/4

We had, I just didn't get a lot of info on it and missed that Korriban was the error. No biggie since we got it taken care of.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

I say we step into that crooked deal, Lantressa. Think you can draw the attention while I work?


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

I think I may have screwed our plans up.


Male Human (Varisian) hp 45/56 | AC 22/T 17/FF 15 | CMD 22 | Fort +4 | Ref +7 [+8 v traps] | Will +2 | Init +6 | Perc +13 (+15 to locate traps) | SM +17

Also, where is Teodor? Is he still with us? I'm assuming he is and just hasn't been posting since this event really doesn't involve him.


M Human (Ustalavian) Cleric of Groetus 3/Slum Shaman 1/Evangelist of Groetus 5

Sorry ...work went to hell for me. I had half a mind to have Teo sneak off and cause some trouble but didn't get a chance to think and write.


Male

No worries! It happens to all of us. Hope that your work is cooling down a bit. :)

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