
Genosuke |

::I have noted many here who draw attention to age differences, and use it as an indicator of skill and wisdom...what would one think of one who saw the planet when it was young:: he appears to be trying to raise an eyebrow without the hair required
:P
Which one?

Dom Waverider |

all I can say is... there are those that have alot more talent than just looking pretty and singing/dancing.
but you guys have your fun figuring out who's the best at whatever. I'll just be busy looking pretty while I sing and dance
Thanks for the complement Mel but I really can't help in this situation. :P

Tybalt Baneko |

I actually had a thought.
It is actually more important than just logic that Tybs can't get diseases.
With all of the planet hopping he did before now, he would probably be dead from some alien virus. If he did live, he would still be infected with and carrying all sorts infectious diseases.
Heh...

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most diseases once beat back to the point where there are no symptoms don't stay in the body for long, and those that do almost always live on either the skin or in the mouth, and they hibernate until they form a film and they give off certain chemical signals to determine how many of them are in a given area, when the chemicals get above a certain point they wake up again

Damiani |

neither of his classes has a high fort save if I remember right warlock is will, rouge is reflex
Yes, the application of make up is often a dexterity and experience thing. ;)
You have to consider, "most" people in the game world, by my understanding are 0 level non class folk.
So, compared to them, yeah, he's quite good in the fort saves due to levels alone. Compared to a fighter, no, obviously, that's a class thing. But compared to normal joes, yes, he's exceptional and most normal illnesses, he could scoff off, or get a cure, easily.

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actually in 2e they showed a chart to show how common people of each level
most people are level 7 or below, and in an NPC class,
non adventurers with PC levels are usually around level 4 or below
a person with 18 PC levels was one in 1 million 350 thousand (and that's all the significant digits I remember to the number
I don't remember the stats for a level 16, but seeing as he's also gestalt and has a +1-2 template we'll call it close enough

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there are a few, but they don't spread easily at all
a disease evolved perfectly with humans would be one that killed slowly or not at all and stayed in the body long enough to spread to several others, the common cold is a really good example of this, almost none of the symptoms can result in the death of the host, and most of them result in the disease spreading
"carriers" of a disease essentially what is the best thing a virus can get, not dieing, and being able to spread to others
most extremophiles live away from where humans do and are not evolved with humans in mind, so when one comes in contact with the other, and are capable of interacting (eg the bug can see us as food) usually one or the other dies

Monkeygod |

It definitely makes sense Tybs would be immune to non-magical diseases, or else get a REALLY high save bonus to them.
As for magical ones, yea, he shouldn't be immune, but I could see getting a decent bonus vs them. After all, while they might "not care about the cold" I think saying that they still have a bit of trouble infecting Tybs due to his body's intense cold makes sense.

Tybalt Baneko |

Tyb's unarmed strikes do a point of cold damage, so unless every single individual micro-body can survive a cold damage every six seconds to make it last, /then/ he can get sick. XD

FireclawDrake |

Just my two coppers on this issue:
Life adapts. Diseases in particular are very adaptive. Now, Tybalt might not be susceptible to regular humanoid diseases, but what about, for example, Ice elemental diseases? Yes, elementals are just as susceptible to disease as humanoids (even Fire elementals do not have disease immunity). If elementals get sick, so does Tybalt.
You guys are trying to expolate from our current understanding of disease, but what you are forgetting is that this is fantastical universe. The diseases that live in it should also be fantastical.

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Tyb's unarmed strikes do a point of cold damage, so unless every single individual micro-body can survive a cold damage every six seconds to make it last, /then/ he can get sick. XD
well my unarmed strikes do a point of fire damage but that doesn't make me immune to disease... well actually I am immune to disease, but that's because my bugs kill any bugs that try to get in me

GM Fireclaw |

actually in 2e they showed a chart to show how common people of each level
most people are level 7 or below, and in an NPC class,
non adventurers with PC levels are usually around level 4 or belowa person with 18 PC levels was one in 1 million 350 thousand (and that's all the significant digits I remember to the number
I don't remember the stats for a level 16, but seeing as he's also gestalt and has a +1-2 template we'll call it close enough
The figure I generally use for my players is "For every level higher, half the amount of people".
It means that, for example, for every level 20 in the world, there is about 2^19 Level 1 people (a little more than 500,000), 2^18 Level 2, 2^17 Level 3s, etc.
That's the easiest way to understand it, in my opinion. Golarion has good population totals and most of the high level characters listed in one resource or another, so you might be able to make accurate comparisons if you put in the effort to compile the data.

Vickory West |

Population changes with edition and source. One source considered each level or above to be about ten percent of the lower level.
3.0 considered level 5 the once a generation, maximum achievable by standard mundane real life type humans.

lynora |

please humor me with this. But I have a question. Is this the same disease that is currently running through Kuros? Is that the same disease inside the girl in stasis? I am asking becuase of how it effects my next character, which is tied to all of this.
Yes, it's the same disease. Mostly. The virus in the girl is a more advanced strain.

Settro |

Personally, I'd just burn it all. (Un)Holy fire can take out anything. Kill it all, then raise the corpse when no disease is left.

Settro |

Devine damage (flame strike- no resistance to half the damage) won't work?
If that fails, I'll just use polymorph any object to transform the body into a non-living object.

Edward Sobel |

Edward Sobel |

cool, thanks all, I just wanted to be sure I haven't been a jerk to any of you, and yes i am sticking around for this game definitely.
this is one of my favorite games.
I was a jerk to my GM in another game, I was worried I did the same thing here.
i have since worked it out so I think all is good again. I just hate having my character get dropped to -7 hp in the first round of combat.
now I am looking out my window...just a light dusting of snow they said. looks like a couple of inches (again)

icehawk333 |

cool, thanks all, I just wanted to be sure I haven't been a jerk to any of you, and yes i am sticking around for this game definitely.
this is one of my favorite games.
I was a jerk to my GM in another game, I was worried I did the same thing here.
i have since worked it out so I think all is good again. I just hate having my character get dropped to -7 hp in the first round of combat.
now I am looking out my window...just a light dusting of snow they said. looks like a couple of inches (again)
Were you level 1?
If so, it's no surprise you dropped to -7 in one round.

icehawk333 |

Ah.
That is odd, but in truth, a neutral evil or chaotic evil character would quite possibly do just that- it increases the pressure on you allies to heal you.
And you really didn't get it that bad. it's possible to drop to that low with one or two attacks, or of you're on the receiving end of a crit, sometimes you'll go from full to dead in one hit.

Damiani |

I just hope i have not been a jerk to any of you guys.
BTW Damiana i never did give a physical description of nurse Julie in the past I only posted a picture of her:
this is pretty much exactly like her. she is a bit short (just under 5' tall), and very slender. she dresses very conservatively.
Awesome, thanks.
Visual aids always appreciated.

GM_Capt_Wombat |

I just hope i have not been a jerk to any of you guys.
BTW Damiana i never did give a physical description of nurse Julie in the past I only posted a picture of her:
this is pretty much exactly like her. she is a bit short (just under 5' tall), and very slender. she dresses very conservatively.
No jerkiness came my way Ed, all the best with the life thing.