
Tybalt Baneko |

Sounds accurate to me Ed. :)
(I've also always kinda wondered about that. I wonder how those fish live like that.)

Carl "Ironfist" Promethium |

Arthur Barren wrote:ok, how deep is the ocean at deepest point, and how deep do high end RL submarines go.On earth... deepest point is 34,994 ft
The max depth for current subs is classified max depth of mine was approx 1800 ft. My class of sub has been decommissioned since the 1990'
So the pressure would be 349.94 times 44
Posting from my nook no calcultor app so you will need to do the math
You may know all this but just wanted to say gravity and pressure are not 100% the same thing, you get pressure because of gravity [or other things,], stuff on a gravity well getting all squished, you may be fine in a pressure hardened ship underwater and the force is acting only on the outside of the ship, but gravity is an "attractive" ubiquitous force, it permeates all mass. A gravity hardened ship may do well in a gravity well but any soft stuff inside, well you get the idea.

Tybalt Baneko |

Angler fish (especially female angler fish) are possibly among the most horrible animals.

Capt Wombat |

What always gets me about Ironman is the fact hes human and can do a crash stop deceleration of about +60Mph to 0Mph an not have in internal organs rip themselves apart, then I have to kick myself and say, "Its a Hollywood film, really has nothing to do with it" then I feel a lot better

"Ace" |

Need a ruling on Grim's two feats.
Charnel Miasma and Otherwordly Countenance
Neither description list them being mind affecting, but they both sure as hell seem that way. Which would be mean Ace is unaffected.

Grim Jr. |

from a rules heavy game they would both be non mind affecting
but as for rules as intended it could go both ways, I mean how is the sickened condition blocked by mental protections
and there was something in the channel miasma thing about smell so that might not be mind affecting,
and it's not like you couldn't make the save, at least one of them and it's not like shaken is a big deal,
sickened I'm going to have to look up what that exactly entails.

Dom Waverider |

I would guess Charnel is a no, while Otherworldly is a yes. Just my opinion.
But both is in that area of immunity to mind effecting I don't like applying.
Mind effecting is just so broad. Couldn't they have many a few sub types in there.

Grim Jr. |

I would guess Charnel is a no, while Otherworldly is a yes. Just my opinion.
But both is in that area of immunity to mind effecting I don't like applying.
Mind effecting is just so broad. Couldn't they have many a few sub types in there.
this makes sense
I do want to point out the only reason this is even a question is because of rules light, the powers don't have the mind altering descriptorsbecause of rules light we can now debate on whether your mental defences work anyway

Dom Waverider |

It's a necessity? Huh no wonder I decide I'm tired every so often. :p

Capt Wombat |

But both is in that area of immunity to mind effecting I don't like applying.
Mind effecting is just so broad. Couldn't they have many a few sub types in there.
yep if you say "ALL" mind effecting is blocked the most of what the bard bard dos is blacked, how would a Bard with immunity to mind effecting know if he/she is doing it right, that sad sad song is mind effecting yet they would feel nothing. I think being immunity to mind effecting should have some real drawbacks. No empathy, no insight that kind of thing.
This my thinking

Tybalt Baneko |

That depends on how you get it. I was born normal and when I passed out and went splat from a couple thousand ft. in the air he was rebuilt and given a Neural Lace. This acts and I quote "as a mental firewall." So it works to block magic, tech, psionic, racial, etc, Attacks on the mind. This includes mind reading, suggestions, etc.
This leaves him open to fear through intimidation and persuasion through diplomacy. I felt that that the way it was worded should leave him open to actually being afraid or persuaded through non-magic kinds of things.
He managed to rig it up to take telepathy but can't figure out how re-block it.
He can use it to communicate with technology but can only do it with simple things like the school intercom and the pen-phone-thing Dave has.

Ardiente |

Ardiente wrote:Weren't you in the cafeteria?The Assasin wrote:Sadly not at the school right now. Otherwise you would've been first in his thoughts. :)Grim Jr. wrote:not known to grimKnown to ardiente, and his fiery friend
Left with Raelle a little bit ago, right after the shrapnel hit the building.

The Assasin |

The Assasin wrote:Left with Raelle a little bit ago, right after the shrapnel hit the building.Ardiente wrote:Weren't you in the cafeteria?The Assasin wrote:Sadly not at the school right now. Otherwise you would've been first in his thoughts. :)Grim Jr. wrote:not known to grimKnown to ardiente, and his fiery friend
Hah, and another crime I get away with Scott free

Death_Keeper |

Need a ruling on Grim's two feats.
Charnel Miasma and Otherwordly Countenance
Neither description list them being mind affecting, but they both sure as hell seem that way. Which would be mean Ace is unaffected.
THey seem to not so much be mind affecting as they seem.... physical....
one of them makes you want to heave your guts onto the floor, the other one seems like he is giving you a look and looking back "feels" uncomfortable...
not so much affecting your mind as giving you imput, to recieve a desired end

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That depends on how you get it. I was born normal and when I passed out and went splat from a couple thousand ft. in the air he was rebuilt and given a Neural Lace. This acts and I quote "as a mental firewall." So it works to block magic, tech, psionic, racial, etc, Attacks on the mind. This includes mind reading, suggestions, etc.
This leaves him open to fear through intimidation and persuasion through diplomacy. I felt that that the way it was worded should leave him open to actually being afraid or persuaded through non-magic kinds of things.
He managed to rig it up to take telepathy but can't figure out how re-block it.
He can use it to communicate with technology but can only do it with simple things like the school intercom and the pen-phone-thing Dave has.
if arthur finds out about this he will want to examine your thing, see if he can replicate it,

Tybalt Baneko |

Apparently it's organic so I kinda doubt anyone can.
Plus you'd kinda have to crack my skull open to do so. . . .

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daw, next level I will be able to talk to machines with my mind with a thirty foot radius, I can currently hack stuff with my hands by making a knowledge architecture and engineering and treating it as a diplomacy check, needless to say I have that skill maxed
that being said, of course I would enlist melody's help in the matter.

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Apparently it's organic so I kinda doubt anyone can.
Plus you'd kinda have to crack my skull open to do so. . . .
people get their skulls cut open under controlled conditions all the time and are fine afterwards (barring pre existing conditions)
this reminds me what is the procedure for making magic items once you are in game?
I am planning on making a pair of gloves slotting them into my suit halving their resale value these gloves are called the Gloves of Torment, they give +10 to heal checks and have antagonize wound and stabilize at will on them
after being incapable of doing much more than put band aids on 4 ranks in heal this would be a reasonable thing he would want to make

Tybalt Baneko |

You realize that you're able to do basically everything this does, correct?

Tybalt Baneko |

Did you scratch that out of not needing it or because you couldn't replicate it.
It's labeled as "simple" neural lace so I can assume that everyone there has one of these.

GM Fireclaw |

Re: making magic items. We generally try to have the magic items serve some story purpose. Ex: Nimceleb was originally design to prevent Aegythrax from finding Vai. Sure, constant Mind Blank is powerful, but it has served it's story purpose so it's mostly just extra fluff.

Tybalt Baneko |

Oh. Aren't you part construct? Wouldn't that give it to you?
Make a helmet like magneto has!