Well, I am the smallest in an ever growing group. This should be interesting. So my question is Can Odak, climb or lower himself down that 80 feet? I mean at 3960 lbs i doubt rope can hold you.
@Majuba: Heheh, you'll get used to it eventually, be thankful you're outside where you won't hit your head!
@Majuba&Tigerwolf: As it happens, you're both the same age and you're the tallest and shortest member of the party each. Kids these days!
@Tigerwolf_specifically: Odak would need to free his hands somehow, and taking-10 on a climb check would only amount to +3. I think generally speaking Odak, Greez (and yes even Majuba) will just have to use the rope one at time and do a bit of handwavium; OR use those vines that are hanging around and use them as ropes instead. Also, Majuba should weigh 2840lbs now, which is 125lbs at 6ft scaled up.
Squib: "Vines can hold 4 million or 30 pounds."
Since Majuba's growth spurt, I think it's about time to suggest a ruling that I thought about in regards to space on the battle-field. Make things a little easier and natural especially in narrower and more cramped areas like the caves we might be heading into.
• Medium creatures can cut the corners around Large creatures
> And by this I mean if a medium or smaller creature attempts to pass through only ONE square of a large creature that is friendly, they can do that! But if they attempt to cross more than one square at a time, it'll be considered running into their legs instead of around their legs.
• Medium creatures can ride Large creatures, with penalties.
> At least for those like Odak and Greez, it's a bit silly to assume that they're unable to take the burden of at least one medium creature on their shoulders at any one time. Although doing so would incur ATK penalties if trying to fire from such a perch (-4 maybe), and a medium creature would certainly be unable to swing a melee weapon far enough to hit a creature on the ground.
Climbing up requires acknowledgement from the giant and invokes AoO and is a move action. The medium creature can technically jump and climb up the giant too but requires a climb check to reach a perch (shoulders/back of the head). Climbing down is a free action and likely treated as choosing to fall 15-20ft or letting them down as a move action.
Also, Majuba should weigh 2840lbs now, which is 125lbs at 6ft scaled up.Really, I figured he would weigh about 550 lbs.
If he were 550lbs, then shrunk back to 6ft he'd be 24lbs. There's a reason why the Enlarge/Reduce person spells mention weight being multipled or divided by 8. Because you increase in three dimensions instead of one. (2x2x2=8).
Majuba would still be lighter than Odak and Greez, weighing 2840lbs instead of 3960lbs.
No I understand the RL math involved, it's just that 2800+ lbs doesn't sound all that "slendermanish"
Hm, could possibly rule as '750-1000lbs' at least. It's not a major issue as long as someone like Karol or Tigerwolf can't pick you up.
As height increases, so does volume at a much greater rate. The weight increase is relatively accurate, for a given value of accurate. If you want the height, you get the weight. You need the muscle mass to move.
The thought of someone as big as you doing tumbles is mind boggling.
You are the brute squad.
Greez already does tumble alot and very well for his size. Just wait till next level when jumping is going to be even easier for him then.
I actually considered bringing Dergosh along for the brute-squad treatment, but while having a bigger and louder Dergosh was a fun idea, the team composition would then be more giant than medium-sized. Although with that said, Tigerwolf, Karol and Garmack would then have their own meat-shield shock-troopers to direct into puny human armies.
I would be quite afraid if anybody else got bigger, imagine the stealth check penalties!
Yep, you would all have their attention and not even notice Karol, myself, and Garmack.
Oh the fun we could have.
Indeed... [devilish grin]
This is what it would look like if Merc'Dergosh'ion agrees to become a Giant-Orc for the Brute Squad.
Very cool
Not sure who we're waiting for, but it's been a while since we had a post. Whenever there's big dry spells I think whether Odak's going to go up one age category or something.
> Odak gives one of the humans to Majuba to play with to pass the time, the giant Orc capable of holding one securely in both hands,
But majuba always breaks his toys
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> Odak gives one of the humans to Majuba to play with to pass the time, the giant Orc capable of holding one securely in both hands,
I will call him george
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I will call him george
> Odak smiles as Majuba seems at least welcoming of the human prisoner, his eyes gleam happily through his helm!
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Damn, sorry to hear that Tiger, hope you manage to get back to us soon!
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Considering that I got a PM from Merc stating he didn't want Dergosh to be a giant Orc for Draxia and heard nothing back. Dergosh is unchanged and the picture provided is the true state of the party as of this time.
I had an interesting idea on what to do with Natural 20s and 1s for non-combat checks; by treating them like attack roll crits!
Like if you rolled a 20 on something like a Acrobatics check, you'd then get to roll another Acrobatics check in order to confirm a critical success. With the same kind of logic, your second roll would have to be a success or else the critical success just becomes a regular success. Critical-success results would be something really special and the successful player can influence their own advantage, though the final ruling would be decided by GM.
On the flip-side, the controversial Critical Fumble or 'Disaster 1' roll could be managable by the same mechanics. Rolling a 1 forces you to roll again to decide whether you get a normal failure (by succeeding the second roll), or get a Disastrous result for failing the second time. Unlike a natural success, it would be all on the GM to decide what kind of penalty befalls the user. In the case of an Acrobatics check, the person may actually trip up and fall prone instead.
If anybody's got any thoughts on this I'd love to hear it. I admit that I avoided the idea of a fumble/epic-fail/disaster roll in the past, but that was mainly because other versions was based on 'rolling a 1, no matter what' rather than giving players a literal save against such things.
All I know is that it would definitely add a huge comedic/heroic factor to the game as we see various players succeed or fail spectacularly, I'm for it :)
I know that I was glad when skills went to no fail on 1. But I can get behind the save versus the failure.
For the most part now. Spotty but its pretty steady. What's up? I didn't want to say it was until i finished this week with it incase it failed again.
Yeah.
Glad to have you back Tiger!
Glad to be back. If she had fell I would have had her yell to Odak. "Catch me!"
falling into a person covered in metal? Might be kinder to let you hit the ground.
:D
There was a rule in the 3.5 epic system that stated if you roll a twenty on a skill roll, add 10 to the result, and one minus ten.
This was also a system in which it was possible to track someone through air movement (DC75 I think)
Maybe but if Odak caught her he could try and slow her movement, guess its more a choice of what your willing to risk
Regardless, its good to have you back among us Tigerwolf :)
And that air tracking looks totally impossible O.O
Although the details are kinda fuzzy, I imagine Odak wears some sort of flexible, non-metal in the palm and finger parts of his gloves like leather. Odak could catch her by accident, though that would be his own perception check aced!
Don't forget there there are two chances of catching her if had to. The slow mover in heavy armor and the fast mover in nothing but clothing.
Well good thing I didn't fall.
We're going to be stuck in a wet hole forever, aren't we?
Yeah, I think we are. But hey, at least we can have lots of fun together!
The positive side of not needing armor to be protected properly. No staining and no shrinking as far as leather would go.
The positive side of not needing armor to be protected properly. No staining and no shrinking as far as leather would go.
I don't think leather shrinks, you may be thinking of cotton or something like that.
By the way. Bison Bacon Burritos are AWESOME!
I think if I ever get to play Odak again, I'd see about making a Warforged version of him. Just think that it would be cool to have a giant robot tank.
Ground bison, bacon chunks, seasoning, with garlic and sea salt, refried beens, other additions to taste. I suggest salsa, light lettuce, tomato, cheese, and a little sour cream.