Pinpoint Targeting & Vital Strike?


Rules Questions


Simple question, do they work together? I can't see why they wouldn't, but it just seems to be a easily exploitable feat combo. I may not even be playing a Ranger for this campaign, was just perusing the CRB.

Thanks.


I would not say something that requires BaB +16 is easily exploitable, but even so I don't think they work together because they are both seperate standard actions to use.

Grand Lodge

Seems legit.


Pinpoint Targeting wrote:
As a standard action, make a single ranged attack.
Vital Strike wrote:
When you use the attack action

I don't think that pinpoint targeting is using the attack action, although it is making an attack. It's using a standard action to make an attack. But with the steep requirements, I'd let it go IMHO.

Grand Lodge

Well, you can use Vital Strike with Overhand Chop.

There are so very few things that can be use with Vital Strike, that it hardly seems worth it.

I really hope I am not wrong, and this is one of the many things incompatible with Vital Strike.


It's just like cleave or any other feat that uses a standard action to make an attack.


They don't combine, at least to my understanding.

Vital Strike modifies the attack action - which is a standard action.
Pinpoint Targeting is a different standard action.

There are only a few things that can be combined with Vital Strike - Overhand Chop, Felling Smash, Gory Finish - and honestly that's all the examples I can think of off the top of my head.


Sadly, no, they don't combine.

Pinpoint Targeting is about the most powerful, highest prerequisite, never-used feat in the game. Most of the time you're going to do a *lot* more damage with your 2-7 arrows from a full-attack (unless only hitting on a natural 20) than one arrow always hitting.

The only really good use of it is Sniping (since you can actually use your move-action for that), or at extreme long range. And then it's no dex and virtually a guaranteed hit.

Okay, now I see a build for this... Falconer Ranger switch-hitter, with just Far Shot and Pinpoint Targeting from bonus feats, distance bow, using the Falcon to locate enemies and take them out from 2000 feat at magic + dex vs. ~10 AC (BAB and distance penalties cancel out).

*makes notes*

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