How would you make a Pathfinder version of Green Arrow (CW version)


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Of course you can never make a character exactly like Green Arrow, but what would be the closest?

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Zen Archer Monk, or possibly a Hooded Champion or Ilsurian Archer Ranger with the Empty Quiver style.

Monk is the easier option by far.


... or just Ranger? Archery combat style, Improvised Weapon Mastery (Catch off Guard vs throw anything prereq up to you). Mixes well with Rogue but really not needed. Craft(alchemy) for the special effects arrows. Favored Enemy (rich elite +4, assassins +2).

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Vigilante, obviously

Human Vigilante (avenger)
14/17/12/12/11/13
1: PBS, Precise Shot, renown
2: signature weapon (longbow), [Weapon Focus (longbow)]
3: Rapid Shot, social grace (Survival)
4: sure-footed
5: Deadly Aim, safe house, social grace (Diplomacy)
6: fist of the avenger
7: Manyshot, loyal aid
8: lethal grace, [Weapon Specialization (longbow)], [Weapon Finesse]
9: Clustered Shots, great renown, social grace (Bluff)
10: silent dispatch
11: Two-Weapon Fighting, incredible renown
12: combat skill (Improved Precise Shot)
13: Point Blank Master, feign innocence, social grace (Knowledge (arcana))
14: sucker punch
15: Mobility, subjective truth
16: combat skill (Greater Weapon Focus)
17: Shot on the Run, case the joint, social grace (Knowledge (planes))


RainyDayNinja wrote:

Vigilante, obviously

Human Vigilante (avenger)

11: Two-Weapon Fighting, incredible renown

Why Two Weapon Fighting?

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darth_borehd wrote:
RainyDayNinja wrote:

Vigilante, obviously

Human Vigilante (avenger)

11: Two-Weapon Fighting, incredible renown

Why Two Weapon Fighting?

For unarmed fighting when he gets up close. Between Fist of the Avenger and Lethal Grace, he gets a +10 on all unarmed strike damage at that level just from class features.

Of course that's a feat and 2 talents dedicated to a back-up plan, but you could cut it if you want.


RainyDayNinja wrote:
darth_borehd wrote:
RainyDayNinja wrote:

Vigilante, obviously

Human Vigilante (avenger)

11: Two-Weapon Fighting, incredible renown

Why Two Weapon Fighting?

For unarmed fighting when he gets up close. Between Fist of the Avenger and Lethal Grace, he gets a +10 on all unarmed strike damage at that level just from class features.

Of course that's a feat and 2 talents dedicated to a back-up plan, but you could cut it if you want.

If nothing else, most of the talented Hand-to-Hand fighters in the show (I'm thinking both Canaries, random mooks from the League of Assassins, etc.) seem to have Two Weapon Fighting, so it makes sense Oliver has it. I'm sure I could dig back in episodes and find examples of him pulling it off.


Monks and Brawlers get TWF as part of Flurry of Blows, right?

I think giving him Catch Off Guard would be better because he seems to use improvised weapons a lot (using his bow as a club, hitting people with furniture, etc.)


Rainy, that looks great! Would he really be 17th level though?

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+Urban Ranger/6 with IUS and FE: Humanx2, no spells variant for more feats from the archery chain.

Go back to 1e dual-class rules and drop some expert/rogue levels in for more fun.

No rules in game for being a multi-millionaire, tho.

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Aelryinth wrote:

+Urban Ranger/6 with IUS and FE: Humanx2, no spells variant for more feats from the archery chain.

Go back to 1e dual-class rules and drop some expert/rogue levels in for more fun.

No rules in game for being a multi-millionaire, tho.

===Aelryinth

Multi-Billionaire. Which, at least in the superhero world, is apparently the best super power ever. (Green Arrow, Batman, Tony Stark, etc.) It makes you wonder why Bill Gates is not out fighting crime.


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Isn't there some feat that lets you use your bow as a quarterstaff? I can't seem to find it. Anyways, that I think would be very accurate to the show.

I like Ranger or Slayer, maybe some monk in there. He needs Favored Terrain (Chinese Island).


j b 200 wrote:

Isn't there some feat that lets you use your bow as a quarterstaff? I can't seem to find it. Anyways, that I think would be very accurate to the show.

I like Ranger or Slayer, maybe some monk in there. He needs Favored Terrain (Chinese Island).

You are probably thinking of the spell bowstaff. I don't think there is a feat.

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darth_borehd wrote:
Aelryinth wrote:

+Urban Ranger/6 with IUS and FE: Humanx2, no spells variant for more feats from the archery chain.

Go back to 1e dual-class rules and drop some expert/rogue levels in for more fun.

No rules in game for being a multi-millionaire, tho.

===Aelryinth

Multi-Billionaire. Which, at least in the superhero world, is apparently the best super power ever. (Green Arrow, Batman, Tony Stark, etc.) It makes you wonder why Bill Gates is not out fighting crime.

I didn't watch this season, but last season he lost most of his fortune and his company to Ray Palmer. Did he get it back? And I didn't think he was a multi-billionaire, just a single.

Heh.

==Aelryinth


darth_borehd wrote:
Aelryinth wrote:

+Urban Ranger/6 with IUS and FE: Humanx2, no spells variant for more feats from the archery chain.

Go back to 1e dual-class rules and drop some expert/rogue levels in for more fun.

No rules in game for being a multi-millionaire, tho.

===Aelryinth

Multi-Billionaire. Which, at least in the superhero world, is apparently the best super power ever. (Green Arrow, Batman, Tony Stark, etc.) It makes you wonder why Bill Gates is not out fighting crime.

Who says he isn't?


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Create Mr. Pitt wrote:
darth_borehd wrote:
Aelryinth wrote:

+Urban Ranger/6 with IUS and FE: Humanx2, no spells variant for more feats from the archery chain.

Go back to 1e dual-class rules and drop some expert/rogue levels in for more fun.

No rules in game for being a multi-millionaire, tho.

===Aelryinth

Multi-Billionaire. Which, at least in the superhero world, is apparently the best super power ever. (Green Arrow, Batman, Tony Stark, etc.) It makes you wonder why Bill Gates is not out fighting crime.

Who says he isn't?

Apparently he's decided to cure malaria instead of becoming a superhero. Pretty good choice as far as the number of people saved/helped is concerned.


darth_borehd wrote:

Of course you can never make a character exactly like Green Arrow, but what would be the closest?

Which Green Arrow are you talking about? The one with the basket full of comedy arrow types? Or the far more serious archer who walked away from arrow silliness, and concentrated on being the deadliest archer alive?

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
darth_borehd wrote:
Of course you can never make a character exactly like Green Arrow, but what would be the closest?
Which Green Arrow are you talking about? The one with the basket full of comedy arrow types? Or the far more serious archer who walked away from arrow silliness, and concentrated on being the deadliest archer alive?

The thread title indicates the television show version. Which is a somewhat less experienced (but still very skilled) version of the latter.

As for the thread's question, I agree with Rainy Day Ninja's vigilante.


Just Remender unless you are going first season, all your attacks have to be non-lethal.


Human Ranger (Toxophilite/Trapper/Inflitrator)

1: Point-Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Favored Enemy: Humanoid- Human (or Monstrous Humanoid for practically)
2: Combat Style: Faithful Erastil- Deadly Aim
3: Ranged Disarm
4: Hunter's Bond- Hunting Companions
5: Combat Reflexes, Ranger Traps (Snare Trap, Fire Trap)
6: Combat Style- Snap Shot
7: Ranged Trip, Explosive Trap
8:
9: Improved Snap Shot
10: Combat Style- Pinpoint Targeting


Xaimum Mafire wrote:

Human Ranger (Toxophilite/Trapper/Inflitrator)

1: Point-Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Favored Enemy: Humanoid- Human (or Monstrous Humanoid for practically)
2: Combat Style: Faithful Erastil- Deadly Aim
3: Ranged Disarm
4: Hunter's Bond- Hunting Companions
5: Combat Reflexes, Ranger Traps (Snare Trap, Fire Trap)
6: Combat Style- Snap Shot
7: Ranged Trip, Explosive Trap
8:
9: Improved Snap Shot
10: Combat Style- Pinpoint Targeting

Good one. I had not heard of the toxophilite archetype before.


Needs IUS.


Yeah, the hardest part about designing Arrow in PF is that Arrow can use many different sorts of weapons and PF assumes most people lack the ability to be competent in more than a single fighting style without immense amounts of training.

RainyDayNinja's build is pretty solid though.

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