"From under the Ice" PFS # 6-18 (Inactive)

Game Master lucklesshero

I think I addressed your question in the Gameplay thread, Master GM.

Craggark will happily pony up 8 of his own gold pieces, but he'll need 2 more from the gang. Abadar will provide a return on his investment.

Ha!

Ok if I find out different I'll refund the coin to the both of u at the end of the adventure. For now Craggark take 8gp and Jawhar 2gp. off your characters

Does a Knowledge Dungeoneering check help me identify the humanoid bodies or the wolf?

Knowledge Dungeoneering: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (4) + 5 = 9

I'll need knowledge local and or history checks from everyone that has those skills. Craggark knowldge dungeoneering wont help you identify the bodies.

K(history): 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (15) + 9 = 24
K(local): 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (19) + 9 = 28

Knowledge Local: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (3) + 5 = 8

No Knowledge History here.

Knowledge (local): 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (5) + 5 = 10

With this result, I am pretty sure Jamir should be able to tell whether any of the corpses are halflings.

Somewhere on the forums, there is a thread about the implications of the DC of (I think) various Knowledge checks, which devolved into speculation that the reason there are so many half-human races wandering around is that it takes a successful DC 10 Knowledge (local) check to identify your own species. The point being that half-orcs, half-elves, and so on represent the offspring of those humans who failed the check.

Somewhere on the forums, there is a thread about the implications of the DC of (I think) various Knowledge checks, which devolved into speculation that the reason there are so many half-human races wandering around is that it takes a successful DC 10 Knowledge (local) check to identify your own species. The point being that half-orcs, half-elves, and so on represent the offspring of those humans who failed the check.

"This very short, hairy-footed little lady is awful sweet. I should give her some of my genetic material." *hiccup*

That explains why there are no true half-dwarves - they're so ugly, no human could mistake them for human, no matter how drunk.

(Not said in Craggark's character)

Er...Forgotten Realms lore states that humans & dwarves do interbreed, but that apparently dwarven genetic traits are all dominant because the children are just dwarves, no half-stuff going on.

Dark Sun has the Mul, which are a mix of dwarf, human, and giant bred by the sorcerer-kings to be ideal slaves.

Don't think Golarion's ever touched on the subject :p

Just a reminder; don't forget Pathfinder allows the [i]aid another action[/] on skills and in combat.

Guh. Out of frying pan and into vengeful fire.

Should have killed them when we had the chance ;)

With their tactics that they showed before a fight even begun, I doubt I'd want to go up against them. And their attitude makes them sound intimidating.

over 20 Barbarians surround you now. When there were only 2 ...well we can talk about at the end of the adventure..But, for now you guys need to decide what you're going to do (in character) so get in there and post...

btw whatever direction you guys take; be aware it is better to have one person make a skill check and others attempt to aid him then, 4 or 5 try individually (that's because the skill check will likely get more difficult with each failure). So if you're going to make some sort of skill check, you can use the discussion boards to discuss who may be the best at a certain skill ect...also any aid another check needs to be posted in the game play thread with some dialogue/description of how they are attempting to help the PC that's making the primary check. (then roll your aid another check)

Thanks for the tips about "aid another", Boss!

Wow! This is the most active PbP game I've ever seen! I'm now in travel mode and reduced to posting from mobile.

Faenethor Sera wrote:

Heads up I'll be on a cruise next week and will have only limited access to Internet. Please bot me as necessary.

That's fine but if a combat situation comes up we'll pause the game for a few days until you return.

The reason is: It is a legal PFS game and the rules state only 1 character per player in a scenario.

GM, botting is allowed in PFS PbP but it's in your discretion. If you do want to bot me, my tactics will just be generally wizardly use of spells or force missile. If you'd rather pause the game for my return, please know it will be next Saturday before I'm back.

Nice job everyone!

Here is what I know about the area:[....]

Torvald waits patiently for the halfling's speech bubble to finish loading.

Just FYI - I will be fully offline starting around 3pm CST (9pm GMT) until tomorrow morning. The Rise of the Runelords party I GM for is about to start Chapter 3 ("Down Comes the Rain") of the Hook Mountain Massacre in tonight's session.

We started two years and two months ago, and we have a hard deadline to finish by August, 2019, because my daughter will start college that fall and even if she stays in town (unlikely), she won't want to schlep home for the games.

Wow! This is the most active PbP game I've ever seen! I'm now in travel mode and reduced to posting from mobile.

lucklesshero wrote:

Faenethor Sera wrote:

Heads up I'll be on a cruise next week and will have only limited access to Internet. Please bot me as necessary.

That's fine but if a combat situation comes up we'll pause the game for a few days until you return.

The reason is: It is a legal PFS game and the rules state only 1 character per player in a scenario.

GM, botting is allowed in PFS PbP but it's in your discretion. If you do want to bot me, my tactics will just be generally wizardly use of spells or force missile. If you'd rather pause the game for my return, please know it will be next Saturday before I'm back.

Nice job everyone!

If it's allowed and I have your permission: we'll bot you. Have a fun trip buddy!

Ok for those of you who may be out of action for a day or more. Please assume it's dinner time already and you're eating with Halvor. If you bluff (i.e. Tell him you'll go along with his plan then try to break away later) I recommend Jamir taking the lead roll, intimidate Craggark, Diplomacy Jawhar... or u can simply decide to go along with Halvors plan ...no roll needed. Anyway u do it if either Faenethor or Jamir has time this morning please make a short post about what you might say that night at dinner. Then give me a roll to support either someone else's roll or in Jamir's case give me a straight bluff roll if that's the route u want to go...hope u can post b4 u check out but if not no worries we'll push forward

FYI tusk..,. I like that you're staying in character and being true to how your character would view the situation . I'm not advocating one coarse of action over the other , but having a voice of descent is mostly pure gold for a GM

Ok for those of you who may be out of action for a day or more. Please assume it's dinner time already and you're eating with Halvor. If you bluff (i.e. Tell him you'll go along with his plan then try to break away later) I recommend Jamir taking the lead roll, intimidate Craggark, Diplomacy Jawhar... or u can simply decide to go along with Halvors plan ...no roll needed. Anyway u do it if either Faenethor or Jamir has time this morning please make a short post about what you might say that night at dinner. Then give me a roll to support either someone else's roll or in Jamir's case give me a straight bluff roll if that's the route u want to go...hope u can post b4 u check out but if not no worries we'll push forward

It won't be a full day, but that works for me - I'll have time for another substantive post early this afternoon (Chicago time) and will include these points in it.

So, um, my Diplomacy and Bluff pluses are only +2, belying my modest luck with the dice in recent times. I see that we have the following aid another rolls -

Haltani: +2
Jamir: +2 (or does he have the Helpful halfling trait?)
Torvald: +2

My Intimidate is a +4, but methinks that's not so helpful now....

The only other thing I have going for me is the fact that I'm a countryman of theirs, albeit a "half-breed", and I speak Skald.

What say you, Jawhar and Tusk? And can we get a "bot" aid another check from Faenethor, oh wise and wonderful GM? (Brown-nose Clan of the Frostkin half-orcs)

Jawhar has Diplomacy +6, why don't we all help him? If Craggark, Tusk, & Faenethor manage their Aid checks he's sitting pretty on a +18

Faenethor's diplomacy aid another: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (3) - 1 = 2

Jamir, are you sharing that information with the group? It would be an excellent way to Aid Another on the Diplomacy check.

I've got +2 from Haltani and Torvald so far, Faenethor failed. I'll wait for the rest of you to either decline to try or find a creative way to Aid Another.

Oh, yes, certainly Jamir shared the result of the Knowledge check before the group left the lodge. I thought that was understood - perhaps not.

That was what I meant in my earlier post, where I trailed off waiting for the GM to post the result. Sorry for any confusion!

At this point, though, Jamir's suspicions about Haltani are far more generalized than my own as the player.

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Nope u were lucky to get that much. Normally anything to do with Royalty or even politics goes through Knowledge nobility. But a igh enough k-local check can give you the names of the big players (as that would be common Knowledge). That being said it's one thing to know who the president is: but something like 19-20 college sophomores can't even name the speaker of the house or the Senate majority leader. Much less could tell you all 9 members of the supreme court (my guess is 9 out of 10 couldn't tell you their were 9 Supreme court Justices Well 8 currently but it will eventually be filled)

Point is there is some cross-over in the skills. I gave u a lot (even some rumors) with that excellent check. It's enough for you to work with I assume :) evil GM signing off...muh ha ha!

Jamir, are you sharing that information with the group? It would be an excellent way to Aid Another on the Diplomacy check.

I've got +2 from Haltani and Torvald so far, Faenethor failed. I'll wait for the rest of you to either decline to try or find a creative way to Aid Another.

Assume Tusk declines to aid his leaning is that perhaps Halvor has a point and regardless it has nothing to do with his mission if the Irriseni and Linnorm lords squabble.

I saw a +2 from Torvald
+2 Haltani (aids by giving testimony to being an eyewitness of the generally peaceful intentions of the people of Dalun)
I assume Jamir and Craggark are working on their "aid another post now"
Tusk --no aid another attempt unless he role-plays a radical change of attitude
Faenethor failed (already roll-played by your GM)

you're already at +10 on your diplomacy could be as much as +14

You've got mine in the Gameplay thread....another +2!!!

And I think, Hamstring, that your previous Aid Another check was for Craggark. Since Jawhar is giving the dinner speech...

Jamir did roll his in an earlier post, with a success. So, just waiting on a decision from Tusk.

Sounds like it may be in character to decline to help, but I'll wait for his decision.

You've got mine in the Gameplay thread....another +2!!!

And I think, Hamstring, that your previous Aid Another check was for Craggark. Since Jawhar is giving the dinner speech...

I don't see any aid another check for Jamir...am I missing it?

Jamir did roll his in an earlier post, with a success. So, just waiting on a decision from Tusk.

Sounds like it may be in character to decline to help, but I'll wait for his decision.

Ok roll with Jamir's +2 I'll hunt it down later..

write it out as diplomacy 1d20+14 for ease sake

It was the post where he started talking about disguises.

Technically, that occurred before we left for the rest, but his intent with that post was to create a creative scenario for his Aid Another.

If you rule that the roll needs to happen again, you can simply deduct 2 from whatever I roll.

I'll begin crafting the speech now. It will probably take a while...

Jawhar including Jamir's bonus you should have a total +14 bonus if you roll low don't despair. There's more going on than any of you know. Just give me a chance to respond to your post after your finished

Tusk sees both sides as a thread, from one side we have trolls and wolves and all kinds of stuff working for them, and other other side, we have aggressive pirates. He also thinks that neither side will trust him, but he doesn't trust them either. He also isn't one for diplomacy, thus why I built him with 5 cha, giving him -3 diplomacy. So no, he can't aid anyone. He can tell great lies thus I put ranks into bluff and he feels like lying is necessary to live, but he ain't for for offering peace or diplomacy as he believes efforts to make peace among most hostile or unfriendly groups are futile. Though if others want peace and it to his surprise actually works he will be happy with the outcome, but shocked that it worked. Tusk believes there is no chance on Earth for peace between the two groups or between the group and the pirates. The pirates haven't attack us yet, but Tusk still believes the pirates are very unfriendly and that won't change.

I think Jawhar must have had spinach in his teeth during that awesome speech. Well done, nevertheless, Jawhar.

Regarding re-rolls .. it appears you can share your re-roll. However from the thread I'm reading it is frowned upon to share your GM stars. Until I've had time to consult with GM Hmm re-rolls can only be played 1 a game if you have multiple materials that would allow for more re- rolls you cannot virtually " put a player portfolio in front of someone " I think the idea behind some of these promotions is to get you to buy more PFS materials.

Therefore I'll not just hand wave it. I have a feeling though that PbP is more relaxed and it wouldn't surprise me if everyone got 1 free re-roll a game. If one of you wants to research this I.E. PM GM Hmm for me or find the official ruling in a thread I'd be grateful. So if anyone besides Jamir or Craggark has a re-roll now'd be the time to tell me. Also you need not "give-away " your re-rolls yet Jamir or Craggark. There's powers unseen at work Jawhar gets a re-roll automatically.

The idea is definitely to get you to buy more Paizo products, so I would be surprised if you could just hand waive it in PbP, but we can always check on sharing if we need it.

Jawhar is correct - my AA was for Diplomacy in the thread about how bad the disguise idea was. You had asked me to put the check into whatever I could post before I went offline, and I assumed it would be Craggark who made the speech since he had been doing most the talking to that point. Nothing I said was specific to Craggark, though.

time has no meaning Jawhar sees one result then another. Please re-roll I explain after the adventure

AAAAAAAAAAAAARG!

Do any of us notice anything odd from whatever caused the reroll? Deja vu, mental hiccup, drink that spilled but then was full again, your basic DOCTOR WHO-style clue you're in a time loop? Or is it seamless?

Could just represent initial reaction to an argument they didn't want to hear, followed by slow acceptance of the soundness of the idea. Or maybe he just bats his eyelashes ;).

Ok people, the potions are resist energy cold . Give me heal checks if you want to know the best use for them. You'll be staying the night in Whiterook; so casters let me know what your spell selection in the morning is. If you want to roll-play out the evening dialogue go-ahead. My next post will pick up the next morning. If one of the PC's want to talk with Halvor before the morning they are told by his men that he's *busy* teaching a couple of the serving girls, how to be better hostesses.

Expect another post from me late this afternoon Pacific time.

As stated earlier, I will swap out Bless for Endure Elements. I will plan to cast it on Faenethor each morning unless another person starts suffering from frostbite. At that time, I would likely switch the spell to that person.

My selections will remain the same.

Torvald Will need 6-8 more D20 rolls from you. I've used up all your random rolls..