Two-Weapon Fighting weapons question.


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I was curious if someone could suggest some good one-handed blades for a TWF'ing knight type. I thought about longsword, but the downside is that the off-hand will be too heavy.

I won't be using dex or finesse, these need to be heavy and decent looking swords. Is there any sword I might have missed that functions like a Sawtoothed Sabre, where it counts as light in off-hand?

Would it be unbalanced to use it's stats, but have it look more like a longsword?

The Exchange

Anything wrong with a short sword?


the double weapons like two-bladed sword, orc double axe, and dire flail are the only way to get a higher damage die on your off hand aside from sawtooth sabre until really high levels when you can afford sunblades.


GeneticDrift wrote:
Anything wrong with a short sword?

Technically no. I just had the image of dual long-sword like weapons on this lightly armored knight type with a large, brown worn cloak with furred mane?

Also, the sword I'll be using will have the ability to split into two.

Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:
the double weapons like two-bladed sword, orc double axe, and dire flail are the only way to get a higher damage die on your off hand aside from sawtooth sabre until really high levels when you can afford sunblades.

I thought that'd be the case, pooey.

Think it'd be somehow broken if I used the Sabre, but cosmetically/visually, it looked like say, a long sword?

Dark Archive

That's a question for your DM.


Seranov wrote:
That's a question for your DM.

And I will ask it when he's on. I still appriciate views and opinons from others though, I often don't consider game balance when I'm stuck on craving something visually, so I'm not sure if long sword looking sawtoothed sabers is bad or not.

What do you think?

Dark Archive

Besides the effect from EWP making it count as a Light Weapon in your offhand, I cannot see a single reason why it would not be possible to fluff it as a standard Longsword. It's almost exactly the same in every other way.


Well, since your only main option would be two bladed sword and other double weapons, This representation might give you a decent enough flavor. I found this to be one of the better representations of a two-bladed sword and it might fit well with your general theme. The example gives a plausible enough detail that you almost buy their explanation. The design actually answers a question that always bugged me about two bladed swords: how do you sheath them? This design makes it look like it can be separated into two parts and stored like a normal sword.

Here are a few more key pages. Just continue for a page or two after each for more information on the supposed
justifications for the weapon and small details onuse that gives verisimilitude.


@Seranov
Mechanically, I'd of course pay the proficiency feat and all that, as well as it's gp cost.

@Iemeres
Problem is that I can't really use double weapons. Since I'm aiming for a knight like vibe, though he's a real scoundrel due to Low Templar prestige class, I loved the idea of tossing the shield away, then using an alternated Dagger of Doubling to split a sword into two, then back to one if needed.

Though I suppose maybe I can work it out to turn into a double weapon instead, something like this.


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The two-weapon warrior fighter archetype gains the Improved Balance class feature at 11th level that allows you to treat a one-handed weapon in the off-hand as if it were light. You have to wait a long time to get it, though.

Alternately, you can just accept the extra -2 on attack rolls and invest in Weapon Focus, fighter Weapon Training, oil of magic weapon, etc. to improve your attack rolls. The extra penalty is, frankly, fairly easy to overcome on reaching mid to high levels (one heroism spell by an ally).

Grand Lodge

Sawtooth Sabres.


If the problem is you envision larger blades, then why not just use shortswords and flavor them to be bigger story-wise? Heck, increase their weight for the hell of it if you like, won't make a difference as long as you keep them a Light Weapon.

Alternatively, how about .... The REAL Sawtooth Sabers

Grand Lodge

You want these:

PFSRD wrote:


Sabre, Sawtoothed

Sawtoothed sabres are cruelly efficient weapons. Their curved, serrated blades can cause deep wounds.

Description: A sawtoothed sabre may be used as a Martial Weapon (in which case it functions as a longsword), but if you have the feat Exotic Weapon Proficiency (sawtoothed sabre), you treat the weapon as if it were a light weapon for the purpose of two-weapon fighting—the sabre remains classified as a one-handed melee weapon for all other purposes.

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kyrt-ryder wrote:


Alternatively, how about .... The REAL Sawtooth Sabers

Slap those on a pole, and you have a Ripsaw Glaive.


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Ramza Wyvernjack wrote:
Also, the sword I'll be using will have the ability to split into two.

If you want the "split" ability, have a look at The Butterfly Sword.

Sczarni

Here's the thing. As BBT has shown the Saw Tooth Sabre is treated as a Longsword, unless you expend a feat that lets it be treated as a light weapon for the purpose of TWF.

In 3.5 there was a feat called Oversized Two Weapon Fighting that let you use a 1 handed weapon in your off hand as if it were light.

Two feats, two systems: same principle.

Talk to your GM about using 2 longs swords, but with the expenditure of an extra feat you treat the off hand Longsword as a light weapon for TWF purposes.

Call that feat whatever you want. EWP Sawtooth Sabre, Oversized Two Weapon Fighting, or Longsword Mastery.

If you a d the GM are on the same page it shouldn't be an issue.

The Exchange

...and stay away from the two weapon fighter archetype. its upsides don't come close to its downsides.

Dark Archive

I wouldn't say that. Lowering TWF penalties, allowing you to use weapons you wouldn't normally, still giving you a Weapon Training-esque class feature, and the awesome ability to use both weapons in a Standard Action.

I actually can't even think of anything it'd give up that's a big deal, though I've never really been a fan of Armor Training, anyway.


@Blacktroll
While I don't mind the suggestion, I already asked opinions about Sawtooth sabres with longsword-ish visuals. But thanks.

@Chernobyl
I kinda liked the archetype, tho Mobility one seemed nice too as it allows charging and attacking with both weapons. Alas, We're tryong out Multiclass Archetypes, so my warrior is a tricky rogue

@Krodjin
That's a good idea, I'll drop it. He's pretty lenient with that kinda stuff.

Grand Lodge

I think this can be done, without pushing for houserules.

I have ask a few questions.

Do you need armor?

What is you preferred alignment?

Is there anything you really want to do, besides fight with two Longswords?

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