
Javell DeLeon |

Poor Victor. The DM's going to have to buy a critical fumble deck just for him.
Buy two. I would hate for you to have to recycle through them so quickly. ;)
Let's see; I've pissed off Wren, twice. I've shot Brock in the can. I've broken my bow. Victor is apparently fine with Sophy being eaten to death. The only thing I have yet to do is find some way to get Eponine. Yay! Heck yeah, somebody stop me! ;)
(No really, somebody please stop me. This is just getting bad.)
Worst. Character. Ever.
Yep, that about sums it up. :)

Lucendar |

I don't mean to be a rules lawyer, just bringing to DM's attention:
A Tiny creature typically occupies a space only 2-1/2 feet across, so four can fit into a single square. 25 Diminutive creatures or 100 Fine creatures can fit into a single square. Creatures that take up less than 1 square of space typically have a natural reach of 0 feet, meaning they can't reach into adjacent squares. They must enter an opponent's square to attack in melee. This provokes an attack of opportunity from the opponent. You can attack into your own square if you need to, so you can attack such creatures normally. Since they have no natural reach, they do not threaten the squares around them. You can move past them without provoking attacks of opportunity. They also can't flank an enemy.

Mythril DM |

A week from today I will be headed out of town for a conference that I will get class credit for. I don't know what (if any) internet access I will have. I hope I will be able to post at night but I will have to wait and see when I get there. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up that we may need to postpone the game a week.

Javell DeLeon |

Joana wrote:Dice in general seem to hate me...Joana wrote:The d100 hates you, markofbane.Never mind; I'm used to misses being low. The damage die still hates you, though. :)
Trust me, my friend, when I say this...
I can feel your pain, brother. I can feel your pain.

Lucendar |


MythrilDragon RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 |

** spoiler omitted **
I don't see a reason for you to bow out. I think the game is going great. I have not been a rules lawyer ever, but I am adapting as you kindly point out places that I have missed somethings because I want the game to be fair. I am cool with that and think I have adjusted and retracted things as needed to be fair to the party.
In this case we are dealing with an unusual situation. Effects that are based on time, and the difference between rounds and turns and PBP time in RL which is difficult to adjudicate when it might be several hours between posts. In this case I chose to say that the time between the end of one combat and the beginning of a second combat equaled roughly two minutes. (This is actually in favor of the party since Sophy is under the effect of a minute by minute effect giving her negatives.
Is this close to a TPK? I am not sure. That depends on the actions of the party and the dice I suppose. Brock can kill these things in one or two hits typically, but He hasn't figure out that they are FAST HEALING. Information now available IC to someone in the party who should be sharing that soon.
Combat is not the solution to every encounter, and sometimes retreating and coming back another day are better options. After dropping these things try doing a coup de grace. The party is learning as it goes and this is a good thing. I am learning the crunchy part of the rules as well and this is a good thing. I am grateful when you point out where I have missed things. For example I had heard that the poison rules had change in Pathfinder. So to do that part I looked up poison and read it through several times on the PDR. What my search didn't show me was the part you pointed out under the heading Afflictions. I would never have seen it unless you shared it with me. So Thanks.
I hope you will reconsider dropping out. I am enjoying Brock as a Character and you as an informed player.

Joana |

Combat is not the solution to every encounter, and sometimes retreating and coming back another day are better options.
Sophy's been saying this IC, and I'll reiterate OOC. Both fighters have lost their primary weapons. Both spellcasters are out of spells. One PC is unconscious and another is at 2 HP. Sophy rolled a 19 to hit and maxed out on damage with her dagger and did nothing to Erylium. Our only option is to get out and come back with more resources. We cannot stand and fight these things in these circumstances.

Javell DeLeon |

Even though I had the same question as Brock had in the game thread, can't really disagree with Joana.
I understand it's part of a pc's personality to do what each one has to do, but it looks like our decision is pretty much gonna get us all killed. (Or maybe just two of us, if the others can find a way to get away. Sorry Eponine, hate to include you in the two of us, but one more hit and you'll be joining Victor in sleepyland.) ;)

Mythril DM |

Even though I had the same question as Brock had in the game thread, can't really disagree with Joana.
I understand it's part of a pc's personality to do what each one has to do, but it looks like our decision is pretty much gonna get us all killed. (Or maybe just two of us, if the others can find a way to get away. Sorry Eponine, hate to include you in the two of us, but one more hit and you'll be joining Victor in sleepyland.) ;)
And don't think that Victor is dead yet. In my Table Top game the Barbarian was captured in a similar way. The rest of the party retreated, secured some help and then went and rescued him. In fact he was freed and then he killed the quaist. So it CAN be done.

Javell DeLeon |

And don't think that Victor is dead yet. In my Table Top game the Barbarian was captured in a similar way. The rest of the party retreated, secured some help and then went and rescued him. In fact he was freed and then he killed the quaist. So it CAN be done.
Now THAT would be interesting.

Mythril DM |

Mythril DM wrote:Now THAT would be interesting.
And don't think that Victor is dead yet. In my Table Top game the Barbarian was captured in a similar way. The rest of the party retreated, secured some help and then went and rescued him. In fact he was freed and then he killed the quaist. So it CAN be done.
It was some very cool role-play.

Javell DeLeon |

I also have to admit, I REALLY like Sophy and this cranky attitude of hers. Man it's just so out of character I can't HELP but love it. It just shows she's got some spark in her deep down. ;)
By the way, when I say *I*, I mean me. Victor thinks something seriously wrong, but that's his issue. ;)

Lucendar |

Lucendar wrote:** spoiler omitted **I don't see a reason for you to bow out. I think the game is going great. I have not been a rules lawyer ever, but I am adapting as you kindly point out places that I have missed somethings because I want the game to be fair. I am cool with that and think I have adjusted and retracted things as needed to be fair to the party.
In this case we are dealing with an unusual situation. Effects that are based on time, and the difference between rounds and turns and PBP time in RL which is difficult to adjudicate when it might be several hours between posts. In this case I chose to say that the time between the end of one combat and the beginning of a second combat equaled roughly two minutes. (This is actually in favor of the party since Sophy is under the effect of a minute by minute effect giving her negatives.
Is this close to a TPK? I am not sure. That depends on the actions of the party and the dice I suppose. Brock can kill these things in one or two hits typically, but He hasn't figure out that they are FAST HEALING. Information now available IC to someone in the party who should be sharing that soon.
Combat is not the solution to every encounter, and sometimes retreating and coming back another day are better options. After dropping these things try doing a coup de grace. The party is learning as it goes and this is a good thing. I am learning the crunchy part of the rules as well and this is a good thing. I am grateful when you point out where I have missed things. For example I had heard that the poison rules had change in Pathfinder. So to do that part I looked up poison and read it through several times on the PDR. What my search didn't show me was the part you pointed out under the heading Afflictions. I would never have seen it unless you shared it with me. So Thanks.
I hope you will reconsider dropping out. I am enjoying Brock as a Character and you as an informed player.
Thanks, MD but I've made up my mind. I enjoyed playing with all of you. Besides, I'm starting a new PbP soon so it will be good to scale back a little. Please DMPC Brock until a suitable point as I don't want to hold up the game. Thanks and I'll see you in LoF.

MythrilDragon RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 |

Okay, you will be missed in the game and are always welcome back as Brock or as another character.
So I have to ask the rest of you...Do you feel the same way. I know I have made some goof ups with the RAW but I am trying to adjust and learn so that it fair for the party. If the rest of you feel that it's not worth it and also want to bow out please feel free to let me know. My feelings won't be hurt I promise.
I will continue on with the thread until I hear otherwise.

Javell DeLeon |

I really like this group. I think we click pretty good. I like how we can scream at each other(IC of course) and know that it's not personal towards anyone. It's hard to find a group of strangers that just happen to "know" each other well enough to be able to pull that off. That, to me, is what makes this even more fantastic. (Of course, if we all die, I guess that's a moot point.) :)
And when it comes to RAW, nobody can know it all. Some more than others, sure. But I'm the LAST person you want to come to on rules. I know some of them, but I ain't got nothing on these cats on the boards. It's almost like some of them can recite the dang things.
I think you've done real well on adjusting when there has been mistakes made. Now if I can just remember to fix MY mistakes, maybe you won't have to watch out for those also. (I totally forgot to take a -2 to hit on the broken bow bit. And the -1 for bane.) :P
Otherwise, I am willing to keep going. (Again though, if Victor becomes demon lunch, that's probably a moot point as well.) ;)

MythrilDragon RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 |

Good, I will keep it going then. We will have to see about replacing Brock when you all get out of here, I am pretty sure you will....at least most of you MWAHHAHAHA. :)
Lucendar if you change your mind you are always welcome back, and if you happen to lurk about and see me messing up on a rule please feel free to point it out. I am learning a lot of the technical aspects from running this game that I didn't know before, or knew only partially, or haven't figured out the jump to Pathfinder yet. I will try to do better searching out the rules before I post too, so hopefully there will be less errors to catch from now on.
Thanks again for everyone's patience as we trudge along. Just waiting on Eponine, Wren and Sophy to post in the game thread to carry on....

Mythril DM |

I spent some time trying to calculate the time that has passed in character. This is what I came up with, does it seem right to each of you?
Day 1: Swallow Tail Festival
Day 2: Met the Mayor, Learned that the Ossuary of Father Tobyn was stolen, Learned that the guard Chaddik went missing, Dinner with Aldern "Legend of Old Tusk", Attend the show and kill a goblin, Sophy saves Allishanda.
Day 3: Deputized, Met Shalelu and learned about Goblins,
Day 4: Halfing seeks help in finding Ameiko, Fight the Goblins in the glassworks, Dicover the tunnles under Sandpoint and 'kill' a spawn creture, Returned upstairs got Father Zantus's wand, returned to the catacobms fought Erylium & left her in the cathedral, Find the ransuer statue, fight in the prison cells chase Erylium off, Currently fighting the reawakened spawn.
I figure it is probably about 2:30-3:00 on the 4th Day. Does that sound about right to everyone?

Javell DeLeon |

Yep, sounds good.
My only issue is I can't remember exactly when it was we went into the glassworks.
A part of me keeps thinking it was the same day as Day 3. But my memory is terrible(I have a hard time remembering yesterday, trust me). I think it was in the morning we went into the glassworks. We also met Shalelu in the morning, so yeah, can't do both at once.
Alright, I'm good.

Mythril DM |

Yep, sounds good.
My only issue is I can't remember exactly when it was we went into the glassworks.
A part of me keeps thinking it was the same day as Day 3. But my memory is terrible(I have a hard time remembering yesterday, trust me). I think it was in the morning we went into the glassworks. We also met Shalelu in the morning, so yeah, can't do both at once.
Alright, I'm good.
Yeah the day you were deputized and meet Shalelu was the day before the
Glassworks. The halfing that started you all on the quest to find Ameiko approached you at breakfast the next morning.
Javell DeLeon |

Don't worry, Javell. Victor's Angels are on their way!
Lol! I now have a visual of an outline of three women posing with guns in their hands. Hm, I wonder....;)
Yay! Where would Victor be if he didn't have his ladies to come and rescue him! :)