New Fane of Fangs GM Questions


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Grand Lodge 4/5

I was going through the quest, as I'll be running tomorrow evening, and something on all the characters. None of them have their traits. Threw me off when I noticed Merisiel didn't have +10 Initiative. Was that on purpose or a mistake? As the GM, can I add them back in for the players?

Second question, how many times can this quest be ran for credit? I saw that "all quests" are replayable with a new character, but I was wondering if that was specific to the newer level 1 and 1-5 quests, and these older ones were forgotten about entirely with regards to that rule.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Your first question I will defer to John.

As to your second question, I believe it is repayable always for 1st level character but only once for levels above 2nd.

The Society Guide 9.1 does not really answer the question however.

Also, flagging to merge with earlier thread.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Gary Bush wrote:
The Society Guide 9.1 does not really answer the question however.

No, it really doesn't. Figured if I asked here I'd be better off than guessing and being wrong.

Silver Crusade 4/5 5/55/55/5

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The evergreen status of the early no-real-rewards quests has been debated for years and there's been no sign of any official stance so far. It's not even clear whether quests count as adventures in the latest versions of the guide because they're called adventures in one spot but the list of things that count as adventures in another spot doesn't include them.

When I was writing up the list of evergreens I decided that
1. the rules in old Kobold Quarterlies are probably no longer canon and
2. quests are adventures, so therefore
3. quests aren't repeatable unless they're in an otherwise repeatable tier (like tier 1 or tier 1-2) and Fane of Fangs is not evergreen.

but that was entirely because I had to make a judgment call and not because I have any insider information.

It didn't hurt the argument that the new quest arcs with higher tiers are only repeatable at level 1, though.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 ****

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It's been ruled by OP leadership in the past (just not on the public forums) that 0xp Quests are repeatable. In addition, because they don't have any rewards other than boons, the same ruling stated that the result of a PC "death" during a 0xp Quest is that they simply get a chronicle sheet with the boons crossed off and that a PC could not actually "die" in a 0xp adventure.

Unfortunately, OP leadership hasn't updated that ruling (or posted it to the public boards) since 2013, so "expect table variation" / YMMV.

Grand Lodge 4/5

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I asked John directly since I'm running the quest tonight and needed as immediate a response as possible. This is what he said:

It’s definitely been a while since I’ve looked at this adventure or remember making any rulings on it. I don’t see any problem with replaying it.

As for traits, I would not add those in, despite that probably being an oversight on my part. Making any mathematical corrections (e.g. Sajan’s weird hp) is certainly quite reasonable.

Thanks, John.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 ****

I don't think John was even working at Paizo in 2013, so that all matches up ;)

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