Kinetic Blast + Burn! Burn! Burn! Feat Combo?


Rules Questions

Scarab Sages

Like it says in the header, can you combined a fire kinetic blast with the Burn! Burn! Burn! feat as a goblin Kineticist?

Burn! Burn! Burn! wrote:
You deal an extra 1d4 points of fire damage when you attack with fire from an alchemical or nonmagical source (such as with alchemical fire or torches) and gain a +4 competence bonus on Reflex saving throws made to avoid catching on fire or to put yourself out when on fire. Additional damage caused by this feat does not apply to magical attacks (such as an alchemist's bomb) or to splash damage.

Emphasis mine. So the feat gives you +1d4 damage on non-magical fire attacks and Kinetic Blasts (with the fire element) don’t appear to be considered magical except for the purpose of bypassing damage reduction.

Kinetic Blasts wrote:
Kinetic Blast (Sp): At 1st level, a kineticist gains a kinetic blast wild talent of her choice. This kinetic blast must be a simple blast that matches her element. As a standard action, the kineticist can unleash a kinetic blast at a single target up to a range of 30 feet. She must have at least one hand free to aim the blast (or one prehensile appendage, if she doesn't have hands). All damage from a kinetic blast is treated as magic for the purpose of bypassing damage reduction. Kinetic blasts count as a type of weapon for the purpose of feats such as Weapon Focus. The kineticist is never considered to be wielding or gripping the kinetic blast (regardless of effects from form infusions), and she can't use Vital Strike feats with kinetic blasts. Even the weakest kinetic blast involves a sizable mass of elemental matter or energy, so kinetic blasts always deal full damage to swarms of any size (though only area blasts deal extra damage to swarms). A readied kinetic blast can be used to counterspell any spell of equal or lower level that shares its descriptor. A kinetic blast that deals energy damage of any type (including force) has the corresponding descriptor.

Emphasis mine again.

Does this ability work with the feat or are spell-like abilities (or things “considered magical” for bypassing DR) considered magical attacks?


A kinetic blast is a spell-like ability, so it won't stack, unfortunately.


Kinetic Blasts are spell like abilities and are by definition magical.

PRD: Glossary
"Spell-Like Abilities (Sp): Spell-like abilities, as the name implies, are magical abilities that are very much like spells. Spell-like abilities are subject to spell resistance and dispel magic. They do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated (such as an antimagic field). Spell-like abilities can be dispelled but they cannot be counterspelled or used to counterspell."


Kinetic Blasts are SLAs. SLAs are magical sources. Therefore, it won't work.

Scarab Sages

Thanks! I figured I was missing something :)

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