Yakman |
Sure, it’s only a cursory title and it predates the pathfinder game itself, but if there is some sort of a connection there, how could that be used in-universe?
the "oinodaemon" IS Azathoth.
He became so powerful that he abandoned the concepts of life, death, or good, or evil, or suffering, or anything so banal, and became completely associated with entropy.
As such, he pulled himself out of the Wastes, but lurks beneath, as the ultimate concept of destruction. Far more powerful than the Four Horsemen, abides (if that is a term useful for such a mindless terror of penultimate might) at the center of creation, his tendrils spread throughout every atom of existence.
Reduxist |
Reduxist wrote:Sure, it’s only a cursory title and it predates the pathfinder game itself, but if there is some sort of a connection there, how could that be used in-universe?the "oinodaemon" IS Azathoth.
He became so powerful that he abandoned the concepts of life, death, or good, or evil, or suffering, or anything so banal, and became completely associated with entropy.
As such, he pulled himself out of the Wastes, but lurks beneath, as the ultimate concept of destruction. Far more powerful than the Four Horsemen, abides (if that is a term useful for such a mindless terror of penultimate might) at the center of creation, his tendrils spread throughout every atom of existence.
But if they both exist simultaneously, then how can they be the same person?
Zhangar |
That's less an issue for a god than you may realize. Especially one as powerful and as fundamentally irresponsible as Azathoth.
Perhaps the oinodaemon represents an unusually aware and hateful fragment of Azathoth, much like how Tawil At'Umr is both an avatar of Yog-Sothoth and a separate demigod with its own agenda.
If Azathoth dreams, perhaps the oinodaemon and Abaddon are the products of its nightmares.
Yakman |
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Yakman wrote:But if they both exist simultaneously, then how can they be the same person?Reduxist wrote:Sure, it’s only a cursory title and it predates the pathfinder game itself, but if there is some sort of a connection there, how could that be used in-universe?the "oinodaemon" IS Azathoth.
He became so powerful that he abandoned the concepts of life, death, or good, or evil, or suffering, or anything so banal, and became completely associated with entropy.
As such, he pulled himself out of the Wastes, but lurks beneath, as the ultimate concept of destruction. Far more powerful than the Four Horsemen, abides (if that is a term useful for such a mindless terror of penultimate might) at the center of creation, his tendrils spread throughout every atom of existence.
well... there's no concrete evidence of an Oinodaemon. It's never manifested. It's just hinted at being this penultimate evil at the heart of Abaddon, the mightiest Fifth Horseman. Something beyond the gods.
And what it really is, is entropy's manifestation - Azathoth, the most powerful force in the multiverse. so yeah, it's the Daemon Sultan, it just doesn't care about Daemons, or anything, really. Daemons prate and gawk about death and killing everything, but they are poseurs. They have motivations. They think.
Azathoth though... that's the end of all things. It's all going to break down. All of it - atoms, the multiverse, any pretense of order or communication or time...
So yeah. There's an almighty Oinodaemon out there. And it can't even care.
Trelmarixian the Black |
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well... there's no concrete evidence of an Oinodaemon. It's never manifested. It's just hinted at being this penultimate evil at the heart of Abaddon, the mightiest Fifth Horseman. Something beyond the gods.
No evidence? Stand anywhere in Abaddon and just look up. That perpetual eclipse? It's a single lidded eye of a comatose horror and our greatest triumph and mistake. One location though, one location it's open and it is angry in its imprisoned transcendence and we Four are the only thing keeping it from awakening.
Or it's a lie we tell to ensure our survival in the face of universal antipathy to our unceasing soul-hunger.
It's a lie, unless it isn't.