Holy Tactician buld advice


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I'm building a Holy Tactician Paladin that focuses on Aid Another and Teamwork feats. The party is a Cleric and two-weapon Rogue, so I'd only have two other PCs to buff. I also want to take Leadership at level 7 to add either a Crusader Cleric or Tactician Fighter NPC.

Human Holy Tactician (25 point buy)
Str: 15 (17 with +2 racial)
Dex: 10
Con: 14
Int: 13
Wis: 10
Cha: 16

Traits: Battlefield Disciple, Divine Warrior (willing to trade out Divine Warrior for a better trait suggestion)

1: Combat Advice, Combat Expertise
2:
3: Swift Aid, Bonus Teamwork Feat: ??? (Possibly Escape Route, Outflank, Feint Partner, or Got Your Back)
4: [+1 to Strength]
5: Cosmopolitan- Perception, Bluff (if I take Feint Partners)
6:
7: Leadership, Bonus Feat: Harrying Partners

Battlefield Disciple gives a +1 to attack roll bonuses from Aid Another, meaning with Swift Aid and Combat Advice, I can give an ally a +4 to hit and still make an attack, or give an ally a +7 to hit a tough enemy, or split my buffs between them and give one a +3 and the other a +4, or give both a +2 and make an attack with Weal's Champion to give them another +1 to hit, Swift Aid a +2 to one ally, then ready an action to Aid Another on their off-hand/iterative attack.

What do you guys think?


I'd ditch Battlefield Disciple and replace it with Helpful (or the Halfling version if you don't mind your character being Adopted). The aid another bonus from Battlefield Disciple only works on attack rolls, and the heal bonus is likely to become useless very quickly since you'll be using Lay on Hands to heal people, not the heal skill. Taking Helpful means you can be more useful when using aid another out of combat as well.

Bodyguard is a good feat if you want to utilise aid another. You need Combat Reflexes for it, which means you'd want at least 12 dex, probably 14 to make use of this (3 AoO's is really more than enough to make this an amazing feat, don't think you have to max dex). This would require a fair bit of rebuilding though, do don't feel like you have to do this.

Swift aid has a +6BAB prerequisite, so you can't take it till level 6 (well really level 7). It does look good for this build though, so it's worth taking when you can.

Harrying Partners looks great for this build. If you could get Bodyguard on this as well you could use your move/swift actions to aid their attacks & your AoO's to aid their AC and they're covered all round long! No pressure though =P

One of the limitations of a Holy tactician is that you can only grant your team-mates one Teamwork feat at a time. If you're going to be using Harrying partners a lot, it might be worth picking something that you'd use at different times ... Escape Route or Lookout seem like good options (check with your GM if lookout will work with Battlefield Presence).


The two problems with Helpful are that: 1. the way they're worded, they don't stack with Swift Aid, and 2. Our DM isn't allowing splatbooks outside of Melee and Ranged Tactics Toolbox. It's Core, APG, and the Ultimate books minus Intrigue.

But, I didn't notice that Swift Aid had the BAB requirement, so that means I'll have to push Leadership back to level 9. I'm thinking I'll take the Seeker trait over Divine Warrior. Also, I'm torn between Warrior of the Holy Light and a spell list. With my level 3 feat freed up, I'm going to take Extra Lay On Hands at 3. And from the way I'm reading it, I'm going to get the standard 10 + and extra 5 Lay On Hands (assuming 20th level, but at 8th level, I'll have 4 + 2 Lay On Hands as a Warrior of Light.

Human Holy Tactician/Warrior of the Holy Light (25 point buy)
Str: 15 (17 with +2 racial)
Dex: 10
Con: 14
Int: 13
Wis: 10
Cha: 16

Traits: Battlefield Disciple, Seeker

1: Combat Advice, Combat Expertise
2:
3: Extra Lay On Hands, Bonus Teamwork Feat: Escape Route
4: [+1 to Strength]
5: Radiant Charge
6:
7: Swift Aid, Bonus Feat: Harrying Partners
8:
9: Leadership

Another thought was leaving off Warrior of the Holy Light and taking Eldritch Heritage: Arcane and bonding my longsword to make up not having Divine Bond. The only question would be if I could use it to spontaneously cast Paladin spells. This build would look like this:

1: Combat Advice, Skill Focus: Knowledge- Arcana
2:
3: Eldritch Heritage- Arcane, Bonus Teamwork Feat: Escape Route
4: [+1 to Strength]
5: Combat Expertise
6:
7: Swift Aid, Bonus Feat: Harrying Partners
8:
9: Leadership

Would Eldritch Heritage be worth it, even if I went with something like Destined for the bloodline?


Are you okay with Multiclassing? Cavalier / Bard / Paladin make a good Teamwork feat combo. Tactician + Holy Tactician. PrC Battle Herald seems to be something you would like to look at. If you really want the teamwork loving, Tactician Cavalier and Exemplar Brawler PrC Battle Hareld.

But those are just some options. I donno what books they are from, I'll have to check.


If your GM is okay with the Unchained Action Economy, everyone essentially gains Swift Aid for free, making Aid Another worth everyone's time.


I'd like to avoid multiclassing, since it delays class abilities and the Holy Tactician had everything I really want. My main question is could I use Eldritch Heritage: Arcane's Arcane Bond to an object to cast Divine spells. I really like the idea of the Warrior of Holy Light, though I don't know if I want to give up spells. Weal's Champion and WoHL's bonuses stack, so it fits my stacking bonus concept.


And I'm positive my GM won't go for Unchained. If I didn't have a free copy of Ultimate Campaign, then that wouldn't be allowed and it was like pulling teeth to get that in.

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