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If a Core character has access to a non-core weapon on a chronicle sheet, can they take Martial/Exotic Weapon Proficiency with it? Are characters proficient in all simple and/or martial weapons proficient with simple/martial non-core weapons (found during a scenario or on a chronicle)?
Conversely, can a character with a boon giving them proficiency with a non-core weapon buy that weapon?
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Are characters proficient in all simple and/or martial weapons proficient with simple/martial non-core weapons (found during a scenario or on a chronicle)?
Yes, either they are defined as simple or martial weapons by their source, or the GM should rule them to be so to expedite and enhance the table's experience of the game, therefore proficiency with all simple or martial weapons includes those weapons.
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If a Core character has access to a non-core weapon on a chronicle sheet, can they take Martial/Exotic Weapon Proficiency with it?I would say yes. By getting the weapon on a chronicle, the character now has an expanded list of weapons for which Martial/Exotic Weapon Proficiency apply.
Are characters proficient in all simple and/or martial weapons proficient with simple/martial non-core weapons (found during a scenario or on a chronicle)?I would say yes. See above.
Conversely, can a character with a boon giving them proficiency with a non-core weapon buy that weapon?I would say no. Proficiency does not equal access.
Edited for completeness.
bolding mine...
I disagree with this statement. If you have a boon giving proficiency with a non-cone weapon, it would mean that you also have access to buy that weapon. IMHO.|
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In my view, a boon on a chronicle sheet granting a proficiency in a weapon is not the same as the chronicle listing that weapon as something that was found and is now available to purchase.
Exactly. Boons do what they say and nothing more. If a boon says you become proficient with X non-core weapon, then proficiency is all it grants.
I'd be open to future boons saying "you become proficient and may purchase X", but otherwise, proficiency boons are of limited use in core campaign.
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so...
*-you have trained with a weapon and understand how it is used. But are unable to find one like it, or get someone to make you one.
*-You have found a weapon that you have never seen in your life before (and no one you know has seen it before either), but you are trained with it's use and can use it as well as any other weapon you have used for years.
???
Nah. I still think that a boon giving you access to weapon training would give you access to buy one.
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so...
*-you have trained with a weapon and understand how it is used. But are unable to find one like it, or get someone to make you one.
*-You have found a weapon that you have never seen in your life before (and no one you know has seen it before either), but you are trained with it's use and can use it as well as any other weapon you have used for years.
???
Nah. I still think that a boon giving you access to weapon training would give you access to buy one.
Maybe "should" would be more accurate, because it certainly doesn't as it stands.
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perhaps... but part of the reason I like CORE is that it seems (at least to me) to be slightly less "rigid" than other PFS. The judge needs to interpret more than in the Standard campaign - so he has more flexibility to do so.
I'm not sure that's correct... Core uses a smaller subset of Additional Resources, but it still uses the same rules. You don't get access to any other non-Core resources unless you have them on a Chronicle sheet. A boon granting proficiency is not the same thing. Yes, it's artificial, but so is the entire concept of Core when the bad guys can have stuff you can't.
It's possible a GM might allow it, but as the rules go a proficiency boon does not allow you to purchase the weapon.
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*-You have found a weapon that you have never seen in your life before (and no one you know has seen it before either), but you are trained with it's use and can use it as well as any other weapon you have used for years.
???
This is no different from the Eastern simple and martial weapons when they appeared in Ultimate Combat (and that didn't provide access to players who didn't have the book, that is, didn't have a legal source). Various sources have added more simple and martial weapons to classic play.
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If one's proficient with all martial weapons, then they're proficient with any martial weapon in a non-Core book, let's say Nodachi in UC, they just don't get access to it as Always Available without chronicle/boon.
Just cause they're proficient in it, doesn't mean they can purchase it if it's not in a chronicle sheet as it's a non-Core item.
The same situation would apply for a boon granting proficiency with something in a non-Core book, but still doesn't give access to purchase it.