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We have a player who has played and completed the (1-2) "War for the Worldwound" adventure, and will now be doubling back in order to play the (1-1) "Herald's Chosen" adventure.
Questions:
1) Will he still be considered a Mythic Archmage, abet with only one Mythic Charge?
2) Will he be able to swap out for Banner of Valor, Soulshear, and/or Scale of Sacred Weaponry- all Adventure 2 scenario rewards?
-- Steve
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1) No. "After you begin Adventure 2, choose a mythic path card. For the rest of the Adventure Path, when you play a scenario in Adventure 2 or higher, the card you chose is your mythic path card."
I'm hoping that one of the rules folks like Tanis or Vic can weigh in on #2. Essentially, I'm unsure if "the rest of the Adventure Path" means "all scenarios in the Adventure Path sequentially after this" or "any scenario you play in the Adventure Path after this". I could argue either way.
If he has completed Adventure 2, isn't he automatically tiered up to Tier 3 and then not allowed to play Adventure 1 scenarios?
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Rebel, the player has not played any of Adventure 1. His first scenario was 1-2A. He also did not decide to advance after 4 scenarios (1-2D), so he was still tier 1 entering 1-2E.
Once he completed 1-2E, he auto-advanced to Tier 2.
The player that I'm questioning about hasn't done any of Adventure 1 and wants the extra Skill feat from completing the entire Adventure. Meanwhile my Monk needs 2 more scenarios, another player needs the same two scenarios on an alternate character. It's all good. :)
-- Steve
Ohhhhhh, okay! Sorry, I made an assumption that he had completed Adventure 1 as well.
I'm not Tanis or Vic, but if I had to rule today in my game, I'd say yes. There's no specific rule in the PACG OP guide that prevents you from substituting a card like that, and the only guidance that's given is that "A character may not start a scenario with a card in his deck that has an adventure deck number higher than his tier."
I mean, Soulshear is a AD2 reward - but so is a normal Deck 2 weapon upgrade.
It's somewhat more complicated since the general wording:
"For the rest of the Adventure Path, when setting up each scenario, you may choose a character to temporarily replace a weapon in her deck with the loot Fiendsplitter."
Doesn't limit any of those loots to the character who did the adventure. In fact, you're better off giving them to other tier 1 characters if they're able to. Now, the start of scenario tier rule might stop that for higher AD loot, but it was sufficiently murky that I just didn't bother to issue a ruling.
That said, if I was acting in an unofficial capacity with a group of friends instead of answering the internet at large and was asked I'd just go "What's more fun? Do that, and let's get everyone caught up so it doesn't matter".
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Keith, as you note that it reads "For the rest of the Adventure Path" - which would somehow indicate to me that, should you play 1-2B and 1-2C (where you get Soulshear with a successful completion), you wouldn't be able to use Soulshear if you go back to 1-2A.
Our play session last night:
So-
Seoni (the Tier-1 character who completed Adv 2, but had yet to play Adv 1),
Sajan (WotR version) (my character, with the Temple Sword from Pathfinder Battles: Iconic Heroes Set #1), and
Kyra (VL Dan Ziermann, Milwaukee)
All ROFLStomped through Crusader's Assemble! and Ladies Who Lunch. Seoni never swapped for any of the boons gained from those Tier-2 adventures she completed.
Following those two adventures from Tier 1, we then went to 1-2A: The Frogs, with Dan switching out his Kyra for his Tontelizi (who had yet to get that particular scenario, and needed it to complete War for the Worldwound). The final check against Gangrel Fiendsplicer (random monster pull, DC:10) was 56 or 57.
I know I'm only 6 scenarios in, but I'm rather impressed with Sajan's combat ability; recharging a blessing with the IH-Temple Sword turned it into a d12+d10+d8, +1 from Dex skill selection, +4 from slashing, +1 from weapon, +2 from Mythic Charges. (I don't have the card in front of me- work frowns on me bringing in a card game- but if it's based off of Acrobatics, that would be an additional +3. Simply sick.)
-- Steve
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It's somewhat more complicated since the general wording:
"For the rest of the Adventure Path, when setting up each scenario, you may choose a character to temporarily replace a weapon in her deck with the loot Fiendsplitter."
I always assumed that the "choose a character" clause was there to prevent more than one character from being able to use the loot item.
I also assumed that you would still need to earn the reward to replace a boon in your deck. In other words, Soulshear can't find it's way into a new character deck.
I guess we need to know the design intention?
My opinion on the matter is that I think you should be able to use any boons (loot or otherwise) you gain in AD2 in AD1, after all it's not like you're going to strip out your other AD2 boons just because you're playing AD1.
I always assumed that the "choose a character" clause was there to prevent more than one character from being able to use the loot item.
I imagine it is, but I don't see that it says...
I also assumed that you would still need to earn the reward to replace a boon in your deck. In other words, Soulshear can't find it's way into a new character deck.
At all. Using a non-AD2 example, I don't see anything that prohibits you from handing a Sacred Prism to a new character.
I guess we need to know the design intention?
Hence, my refusal to issue a ruling :)
My opinion on the matter is that I think you should be able to use any boons (loot or otherwise) you gain in AD2 in AD1, after all it's not like you're going to strip out your other AD2 boons just because you're playing AD1.
You're definitely not stripping boons out of your deck, because that way lies madness, but these aren't in your deck, and the mythic path already gives precedence for the campaign stripping away things earned from future scenarios when time-travelling back.
Consider also that the wording strongly implies that the Loot card has to come From The Box(tm).
And if you're playing Adventure 1-1, This Adventure Requires:
During this adventure, the game box should include only cards with the set indicators of B, C, P, or 1.
^^^This. Those loot cards don't exist in the box, so can't be used.