Shiroi |
Hello, and welcome. I come bearing a build I happen to like the feel of, and wondering if there is anything that can be done to tweak it further or if I've made any horrible errors in my build, such as not being able to use vital strike with a two handed weapon or such.
I do use third party material, and it's all on the table as far as I know.
For this build, I'll be using the pony finder companion, and the time thief class.
Race: Pegasus
Class: Time Thief 11 (though planned through 20)
Starting fly speed: 30' clumsy
Feats:
Antihero: Strong Jaw (use two handed weapons as my race)
Racial bonus feat: dashing flyer (speed +10/mobility up one step)
Lvl 1: dashing flyer
Lvl 3: dashing flyer
Lvl 5: dashing flyer (70/perfect)
Lvl 7: vital strike
Lvl 9: nightwing (darkvision)
Lvl 11: dashing flyer
Lvl 13: devastating strike
Lvl 15: improved vital strike
Lvl 17: dashing flyer
Lvl 19: dashing flyer (100/perfect)
I'll be taking talents such as bolt time, shatter time, time runner, and time to kill.
The goal is to be able to move as far and fast as possible, using a swift action to do so when needed, to then vital strike with an earth breaker.
Then use another swift (it's a possibility because of the class, I know I don't get more than one normally) if needed to suddenly be 100+ feet away again, laughing at the slow people on the ground.
Can anyone offer any perspective on this? I don't want to share too much of the racial abilities for copywrite reasons, but the class is available in full (or at least all of it i used if its not all there) on the pfsrd.
I know it seems a bit one trick pony, but at the same time I feel it's a unique build of ranged attacker, almost turning me into a living missile. Between the quick runners shirt and my class abilities, I can move at insane speeds and still do what I feel is reasonable damage. I have a side focus on collecting as wide a variety of wondrous items as I can possibly carry and use, for versatility.
What would you do differently? What feels redundant? Is there anything I can do to make this work better? (Besides doing something totally else, thank you, I don't want an archer optimized for dps) I like the 100' fly speed, but I can nix a few dashing flyers for a solid feat choice that works for my build.
As a side note, what items might you carry for fun and versatility on a build like this?
Shiroi |
It's just an increase to fly speed and an upgrade to fly maneuverability. My class gives me the ability to take extra move actions, and fairly often per day. So usually I would move, hammer, move rather than try to attack mid move. Now, that's mostly because I forgot flyby, and didn't think dodge/mobility/spring attack was worth it (I can't use vital strike with that, and it's 3 feats for the single hit).
By the way, flyby attack might be one of the most poorly worded feats in the book.
How does that even work?
Lanitril |
Not sure. But Ponyfinder probably allows a lot of things.
Really ridiculous hit and runners are amazing. Reminds me of Hit and Run Aerokineticists. Except it's probably better damage, less range, and easier to pull off.
I haven't looked a whole lot at most of the stuff this build entails. Like, I think I looked at Time Thief once for about 2-3 minutes a few years ago, and I've never looked at Ponyfinder at all. I just know my friend said it was pretty solid. Oh right. To the point though. Would 4 levels of Unchained Rogue-Scout possibly help this to add on damage/other things? Might slow you down. But I don't know much about the Time Thief, soooo...
Shiroi |
The strong jaw feat allows the use of two handed weapons.
I'm curious where you see houserule blackblooded, I didn't think I had any in here. Means I might be doing something wrong. 3rd party, sure, but I warned about that in the first post.
I hadn't looked much into multiclassing to be honest, wasn't sure what archetypes might work with it. I should look at scout, just need to figure out if the sneak dice would stack with the ones I get from time to kill...
blackbloodtroll |
I am asking, what is not 3rd party, or houserule?
d20pfsrd has access to much of Pathfinder, but not all 3rd party.
So, most of us are running completely blind.
You might as well be asking if the blyorking is better than the blyorging, for most of the community.
So, quote, link, and/or explain your sources.
Shiroi |
Pfsrd has all the details on the time thief class, under 3rd party. The pony finder companion isn't available on any such free site to my knowledge, so I can't actually quote it without breaching copywrite to my knowledge.
Nightwing just gives dark vision, strong jaw gives me the ability to wield two handed weapons, and dashing flyer is +10 fly speed and +1 maneuverability step. The race starts with a fly speed of 30' clumsy.
Here's the time thief time thief
Nuku |
Pfsrd has all the details on the time thief class, under 3rd party. The pony finder companion isn't available on any such free site to my knowledge, so I can't actually quote it without breaching copywrite to my knowledge.
Nightwing just gives dark vision, strong jaw gives me the ability to wield two handed weapons, and dashing flyer is +10 fly speed and +1 maneuverability step. The race starts with a fly speed of 30' clumsy.
Here's the time thief time thief
The mechanics of Ponyfinder are OGL, just not the specific stuff like places, gods, and such, much like Pathfinder itself is with Golarion specific things.
gamer-printer |
Pfsrd has all the details on the time thief class, under 3rd party. The pony finder companion isn't available on any such free site to my knowledge, so I can't actually quote it without breaching copywrite to my knowledge.
Nightwing just gives dark vision, strong jaw gives me the ability to wield two handed weapons, and dashing flyer is +10 fly speed and +1 maneuverability step. The race starts with a fly speed of 30' clumsy.
Here's the time thief time thief
In order for d20pfsrd.com to list the OGL content from any given 3PP, that publisher has to submit his material to one of the content writers of that site. The various samurai and Japanese archetypes, feats, traits, races, monsters, spells and magic items from the Kaidan setting of Japanese horror (PFRPG), my published homebrew under Rite Publishing, I submitted to one of the d20pfsrd writers and now that is available there.
They won't arbitrarily include any 3PP content, without the publishers giving it to them. So maybe make a suggestion to Ponyfinder publishers to do that.
Ciaran Barnes |
If you don't want to quote the material, then you should at least describe in generals terms what the class features, etc do. That way, someone could recommend other options to compliment them, even if they don't have an imtimate understanding of the 3rd party mechanics. Discussing someone's intellectual property is not the same as freely distributing someone else's intellectual property. Otherwise, even writing a review of it would be illegal. If anything, discussing it is like free advertising.
Nuku |
Shiroi wrote:Pfsrd has all the details on the time thief class, under 3rd party. The pony finder companion isn't available on any such free site to my knowledge, so I can't actually quote it without breaching copywrite to my knowledge.
Nightwing just gives dark vision, strong jaw gives me the ability to wield two handed weapons, and dashing flyer is +10 fly speed and +1 maneuverability step. The race starts with a fly speed of 30' clumsy.
Here's the time thief time thief
In order for d20pfsrd.com to list the OGL content from any given 3PP, that publisher has to submit his material to one of the content writers of that site. The various samurai and Japanese archetypes, feats, traits, races, monsters, spells and magic items from the Kaidan setting of Japanese horror (PFRPG), my published homebrew under Rite Publishing, I submitted to one of the d20pfsrd writers and now that is available there.
They won't arbitrarily include any 3PP content, without the publishers giving it to them. So maybe make a suggestion to Ponyfinder publishers to do that.
We're quite happy to announce that Ponyfinder is coming to d20pfsrd rules!