Amulet of the blooded


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The D20PFSRD states

" Fey: This drop of amber hangs on a silk cord. The wearer can turn invisible for 9 rounds per day (as greater invisibility). The rounds don't need to be consecutive. Three times per day, the wearer can make a melee touch attack to cause a creature to burst out laughing. That creature can take only a move action, but can defend itself normally. Once a creature has been affected by this laughter, it is immune to it for 24 hours. This is a mind-affecting effect. Moderate illusion; CL 9th; Craft Wondrous Item; Spells greater invisibility, hideous laughter."

It's the latter half that concerns me as I'm not the best when it comes to item rolls. Does the section

" Three times per day, the wearer can make a melee touch attack to cause a creature to burst out laughing. That creature can take only a move action, but can defend itself normally. Once a creature has been affected by this laughter, it is immune to it for 24 hours."

In essence does this give a no save, unlimited duration, standard action stealing effect at the cost of a simple touch attack.

Thanks for your time


I'd be more interested in how it should work as I'm not interested in using it to power game.


Hideous Laughter (spell used in construction) is a 2nd level spell for a Sorcerer. The minimum charisma needed to cast a 2nd level spell is 12. The DC would be 13 vs. Will (2nd level spell plus Cha bonus). Since it is being cast at CL 9, it would last 9 rounds.


as this item emulate the sorcerer fey blood line 1st and 9th level abilities (as does the other of it's kind emulate other blood line aiblities) id say it does the same thing. 1 round of laughing, no save. : Fey bloodline .
might i add that i read somewhere a designer saying the no save was intential with the to hit attack.


Thanks guys. This really helps :-)


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Agreed that there is no save. While it is crafted using Hideous Laughter, the item dkes not say "as Hideous Laughter".

Also, I'd assume duration of one-round though I'm not sure what RAW is.


Thanks Xethic, it's just so I can give a balanced forum opinion when I introduce it to my GM. I like things firmly ruled before I use them.


if you look at the general item information (as this item come in difrent variants) youll see : "Each different type of amulet of the blooded grants its wearer powers from one sorcerer bloodline"

and as i said the fey blood line give at 1st level a touch attack with no save that last one round that can be used a few times each day and the 9th level power give a number of rounds per day to be under greater invisability that can be taken in seperate rounds.


Yeah that seems RAI so I'll go with that.


I have a question... Assuming for a draconic bloodrager that this applies equally, if you were multiclass dragon disciple, draconic BR and draconic sorcerer... Robe of arcane heritage applies to the sorcerer portion, and I could apply this to the BR portion? The breath weapons and abilities level separately with DD for each, so to me this seems legal RAI. Thoughts?

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