What language did the Shory speak?


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I'm working on a Bladebound Magus for a mythic campaign, and I had the thought that her blade has history back to Kho (before it crashed, at least, that's what it claims).

The ruins of Kho are in Mwangi but Yjae is off butting up against the Wall of Heaven in Tian Xia.

Is there any official source on what language was spoken by the Shory? I wasn't able to find anything in the entries on Kho and Yjae, did I overlook something, or do we get to make something up?

Thanks!


Wasn't the Shory the ones that used those ancient Azlanti scrolls to create the first flying devices, and from Azlanti magic they later developed Aeromantic Infadibulum?

I'd say use Azlanti, Aklo, Avian (or some air elemental language), Celestial, Abyssal (thanks to daemonic influence). These guys disdained the lower ground folk. They considered themselves above all that, so I'd say they didn't bother with languages of the Mwangi or Garundi peoples.

Also, you could make the sword look like the remnants of a propeller blade.

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I don't think there's a canonical answer, although I might have missed something in Lost Cities of Golarion (which has a Kho chapter) and haven't finished City of the Fallen Sky (which heads to Kho).

Personally, I'd give them their own language. They did have some relationship with the Azlanti as Major_Blackheart mentions, so Azlanti would probably be a common second language in the empire. Auran and the other elemental languages are also good choices.

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An article on the Shory will be appearing in the upcoming Pathfinder #83, and if I remember correctly, they spoke Shory. Auran was pretty common as well. I'm at home, so I'll confirm this once I get back to the office.

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All will be made clear...in time.

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But if you can't wait, go with their own unique Shory language. It's actually mentioned in the Pathfinder Tales novel Liar's Blade, as Hrym eventually revealed he had Shory runes inscribed on him (thereby indicating they at least had a written language).

Additionally, in the Pathfinder Module Crucible of Chaos by Wolfgang Baur, the staff of rightful rule (which is a key component in the Aeromantic Infandibulum which allowed their cities to fly) is indicated as having both Auran and Infernal script interwoven upon its surface. That's because the basis for a lot of their magic and electro-thaumaturgy was bound by the strict language of Law (hence, Infernal) and Air (aka, Auran).

But, just because they referenced Infernal in some of their designs doesn't mean they were inherently evil. In my mind, I think of the Shory with an average alignment of Lawful Neutral. But, as their power and arcane mastery grew, so too did the temptations to abuse that power and fall toward evil tendencies at times among some of their spellcasters. Not enough to turn the entire civilization evil. Instead, they were more of an "end justifies the means" kind of crowd, not really burdened by the ethos of good vs. evil. But when it came to law vs. chaos, they were firmly on the side of law.

Hope that helps,
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Major_Blackhart wrote:
Wasn't the Shory the ones that used those ancient Azlanti scrolls to create the first flying devices, and from Azlanti magic they later developed Aeromantic Infadibulum?

Not specifically Azlanti, no. In a few places (such as Lost Cities of Golarion, Lost Kingdoms of Golarion, etc.), the published campaign books have referenced aeromancy as having its foundation in the principles of magic which Old Mage Jatembe introduced to the Shory a few centuries after Earthfall.

Major_Blackhart wrote:
These guys disdained the lower ground folk. They considered themselves above all that, so I'd say they didn't bother with languages of the Mwangi or Garundi peoples.

Not entirely. Even the Shory have their roots among those living on the ground. Over time, they would have developed a disdain for those below them. But, for many years, their early empire (before the development of Aeromantic Infandibulum) had to co-exist with the Mwangi and Garundi. Even so, they would have still had their own language. I believe James Jacobs has even supported that notion in the past in his "Ask James Jacobs" thread here on the messageboards.

Major_Blackhart wrote:
Also, you could make the sword look like the remnants of a propeller blade.

Actually, the propulsion system for Aeromantic Infandibulum (as described in Crucible of Chaos) didn't rely on propellers at all. They used a great rudder (which was described as immense magical sails) and a bag of winds (which was an inexhaustible supply of elemental air) to fill them. I imagine it as a lesser artifact or maybe a mythic version of a decanter of endless water with an air theme.

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Heather Rasmussen wrote:
I'm working on a Bladebound Magus for a mythic campaign, and I had the thought that her blade has history back to Kho (before it crashed, at least, that's what it claims).

If you want some insight into what a Shory blade might be like, check out the Pathfinder Tales novel Liar's Blade. The title refers to an intelligent sword named Hrym in the hands of a rogue traveling north towards the Lake of Mists. And, while it's not necessarily representative of the typical Shory weapon, it could certainly be a good model for the type of sword a bladebound magus might acquire.

Just my two cents,
--Neil


Thank you for the excellent advice.

It should have occurred to me that the flying pyramid we are promised in the Mummy's Mask AP might have more information on that technology.

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Although Neil (the author of the article I mentioned in my previous post) already gave awesome and thorough answers, I wanted to pop in as promised and confirm that the Shory did have their own language.


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Adam Daigle wrote:
Although Neil (the author of the article I mentioned in my previous post) already gave awesome and thorough answers, I wanted to pop in as promised and confirm that the Shory did have their own language.

My apologies if I overstepped anything with my enthusiasm. I consciously stuck to just the canon from existing sources to help the OP out. That said, I think the aforementioned article in Pathfinder #83 should shed even more light on the subject for those who are interested.


I can tell you how happy I am, that I can post a question and have the people who are actively working on the relevant material answer me so quickly.

Thanks guys!

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Neil Spicer wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:
Although Neil (the author of the article I mentioned in my previous post) already gave awesome and thorough answers, I wanted to pop in as promised and confirm that the Shory did have their own language.
My apologies if I overstepped anything with my enthusiasm. I consciously stuck to just the canon from existing sources to help the OP out. That said, I think the aforementioned article in Pathfinder #83 should shed even more light on the subject for those who are interested.

No worries whatsoever, Neil. My answers are always short and to the point, and you provide much more detail. Plus, your memory is better than mine. :)

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Heather Rasmussen wrote:

I can tell you how happy I am, that I can post a question and have the people who are actively working on the relevant material answer me so quickly.

Thanks guys!

Glad we could help!

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Neil Spicer wrote:

All will be made clear...in time.

** spoiler omitted **

Hope that helps,
--Neil

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