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I've seen this question asked before, yet I didn't see anything conclusive on it. In fact, during my last play, it was noted this was illegal, yet it didn't see it should be nor does it appear to be written any where as illegal.
Here's a possible setup:
During a first encounter, the party vanquishes their adversaries and wins some stuff. One of the items is a +1 Longsword (worth about 2,000 GP). The party has no need for such an item. Can they sell/trade it during the scenario (assuming they're in or near a large enough town) and get something they need/want? If it can be sold, is it only worth 1,000 GP as per regular PFS selling rules (I would assume that's the case)? And, assuming that they don't use up that item (like a wand or whatever), would the final gold tally on the chronicle sheets be unaffected?
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This isnt covered in the Guide, so its technically not illegal. It is an interesting idea though. Im curious to see what other peoples thoughts are.
At first glance, Id say it would count as spending gold during the scenario same as if you had spent the gold you already had at the beginning. So if the party wanted to buy a Wand of CLW, youd have to find out who was actually making the purchase and they would have to either drop the 2PP or the 750gp at the time.
I suppose an arguement could be made for the party buying and selling it together, but that just makes it complicated to figure out how much each member of the party actually earns at the end of the scenario.
I advise against doing this. Just go into your mission prepared or with enough gold to buy what you need on the fly. :/
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The unfortunate part about selling things in PFS play is you only get 50% value for it, so you will automatically decrease the gold at the end of the scenario. I agree, it's not optimal and probably not recommended unless it's absolutely deemed necessary by the party because they are somehow otherwise ill-equipped.
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If something lets you cheese more money out of the system the answer is probably not.
Can they sell/trade it during the scenario (assuming they're in or near a large enough town) and get something they need/want?
Sort of. The encounter is worth x amount of gold.
If it can be sold, is it only worth 1,000 GP as per regular PFS selling rules (I would assume that's the case)?
Sort of. The encounter is worth x amount of gold.
And, assuming that they don't use up that item (like a wand or whatever), would the final gold tally on the chronicle sheets be unaffected?
If something lets you cheese double the amount of gold out of an encounter the answer is probably no.
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In general, I would advise against it, just because it complicates things. Also, as Pathfinders, we are expected to turn in any items we find, are we not?
As a GM, I might allow it, but...
1) the purchase would go against a single character's chronicle (since you cannot pool gold for purchase)
unless
2) The purchase was for spellcasting services, which PCs are allowed to pool their resources for. In this case, I would still just divide the purchase price between the characters, on their chronicles.
In neither case would I reduce the gold received, I would just note it as a purchase (with no net result other than that).
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It's actually in the Guide, tucked in Conditions, Death, and Expendables on pg. 22.
PCs can also sell off gear, including
the dead character’s gear, at 50% of its listed value to raise
money to purchase a spell that will return their slain ally
from the dead, though they can only do so in a settlement
and they cannot sell off any items found during the current
scenario that they haven’t purchased.
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As for the last part, I would argue why not, IF the assumption is that the characters are effectively purchasing the item and it will be marked off on the sheets (probably in a shared fashion if the results of the sale were shared) at the end of the scenario? Again, I think it would be a logical and realistic type thing that can be done and actually disadvantageous to the PC's since they're only getting half value. But, hey, if it helps them get through the adventure and live, maybe it's worth it?!
It's actually in the Guide, tucked in Conditions, Death, and Expendables on pg. 22.
PCs can also sell off gear, including
the dead character’s gear, at 50% of its listed value to raise
money to purchase a spell that will return their slain ally
from the dead, though they can only do so in a settlement
and they cannot sell off any items found during the current
scenario that they haven’t purchased.
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I would assume that (and hence my line of questioning) that #4 should be totally acceptable. The unfortunate side affect would be losing that gold on everyone's chronicle sheets at the end of the scenario, though.
Since anyone can pitch in gold to help the cost of bringing a character back to life, this is fine*.
*Expect table variation. Some GMs wont allow you to spend the gold you will heave earned through that point of the scenario til the end of the scenario. What I mean is, some might say that since you havent gotten the chronicle yet, you dont have the gold for it, so you cant Raise the dead person now, but you can raise them at the end of the scenario.
Other GMs will be fine with it as long as everyone has enough or is willing to pay it out of the amount youve already earned for the scenario.
As for the last part, I would argue why not, IF the assumption is that the characters are effectively purchasing the item and it will be marked off on the sheets (probably in a shared fashion if the results of the sale were shared) at the end of the scenario?
At this point, the answer is simply 'because the Guide says so'. You are free to argue against it or try to make arguements for why it should be changed, but until it does, I wouldnt argue the point with your GM.
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As for the last part, I would argue why not...
It's actually in the Guide, tucked in Conditions, Death, and Expendables on pg. 22.
PCs can also sell off gear, including
the dead character’s gear, at 50% of its listed value to raise
money to purchase a spell that will return their slain ally
from the dead, though they can only do so in a settlement
and they cannot sell off any items found during the current
scenario that they haven’t purchased.
To avoid raising the questions of just how much is that, how is it split on the chronicle max gold, what is every out the end, but what if I don't want to share, why don't we buy what I want not what he wants, etc...
Sometimes it's just easier to keep it simple, and this keeps the record keeping a bit easier, as the loot rules are already handwaving a LOT of reality from the baseline anyways.
At least that's my assumption for why it's the rule.
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I think I agree with Nosig on this one. You get all the stuff you find in the scenario for free for the duration of the scenario (including consumables) already. I'd say selling gear is balanced since you only get half value, as long as any gold you got or items you bought with that gold went away at the end.
I think, based on how things work now, this wouldn't be unreasonable, and the items / gold shouldn't be docked on your chronicle.
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So you guys think the party getting a +1 longsword, selling it for half price (somewhere near 1150gp), buying 23 CLW potions with that, using them all so they dont have to expend any charges from their own healing expendables, and then NOT docking them the gold for buying 23 CLW potions during the scenario is reasonable?
Just wanting to be clear, but if you are saying 'Yes, thats reasonable', then I disagree. :P
