Apsu in the Inner Sea -- for Human Civilizations


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion

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Is there anything in any of the Pathfinder canon that shows where in the Inner Sea Apsu is heavily worshipped or revered (by humans)?
Even in the distant past?

Specifically, my choices in order would be,

1) The Land of the Linnorm Kings -- Humans or First World Fey who worship Apsu

2) Cheliax -- Humans who maybe long ago worshipped Apsu and are around somewhere hiding from House Thrune

3) Varisia -- Humans who at least revere Apsu

Or, is there any place in the canon where it does say that Apsu is worshipped or revered by humans (or, ugh, another PC race)?

Thanks!


Sorry I don't have anything to contribute but I'd like to know this too since I've got a paladin of Apsu in my homebrew and would like to move more into Golarion canon.


Not as far as I know. Draconic-speaking and ruled Xa Hoi in Tian Xia seems a plausible locale, although there isn't actually any canon info indicating that either... Their entry in the Tian Xia setting book just states that Abadar, General Susumu, Irori, Nalinivati, Shizuru are the commonly worshipped deities. You might think of Hermea, but they specifically are secular ideology, and if anybody is opposed to Menkare it seems strange they would worship some obscure Dragon deity rather than a Deity worshipped by many other Humans elsewhere.

Grand Lodge

I thought about Hermea but, I dunno, I don't see Mengkare revering anybody but Mengkare. I'm gonna read over Guardians of Dragonfall and the dragon article in AP #4, Fortress of the Stone Giants later this evening as those are the two sources that I have with info on Apsu -- but it seems Dragons Revisited and maybe the book on deities would also have info -- info I don't have access to.

Any help here would be nice.


I believe Apsu has a following on Triaxus (where at least his evil son Dahak is huge in the Drakeland; I don't remember if Apsu was popular in the Skyfire Mandate).

For Golarion, he's an obscure god, and worshiping him is pretty close to being in a mystery cult to an empyreal lord. An entire human community worshiping him would be an abnormality, and not one I'm aware of being documented anywhere.

I want to say Apsu's most likely worshipers on Golarion outside of metallic dragons would be good-aligned kobolds.

Apsu's not a human god, and he doesn't court them. He doesn't reject them, but he has a narrow focus - opposing the ravages of evil dragons.

Looking at Gods and Magic, that book advises that Apsu's non-dragon followers are most likely to be the close allies of a metallic dragon.

So in that light, a mortal cleric/paladin/whatever of Apsu probably grew up in a community that was openly and actively defended by a metallic dragon, and which aids the dragon in turn. Dragons Revisited and Dragons Unleashed might have info about dragons that are suitable candidates for those sorts of followers.

Actually, Dragons Revisited almost certainly does, but my copy is at a friend's house and I haven't read it in a while.


Agreed on Good Kobolds, although I'm not sure of any specific example of canon support for that.


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IIRC, Dragons Revisited was published before Paizo got a good grip on how they wanted to deal with dragons in Golarion canon - with the result that that sourcebook is not used much. And the Guardians of Dragonfall module apparently had some problems too. So I'd be a bit careful when using those two for currently-accepted Golarion canon.


Funny.One of the things that got me interested in this genre were: DRAGONS!

I've been wanting to play a character who has some sort of relations to dragons. (Thanks Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman!)

Dragons Unleashed does not mention the worshiping of Apsu (or any dragons) other than having them as potential allies or using dragons as the adventure/story centerpiece.
Dragons Revisited does not help about worshiping dragons either. Again the book covers the "base 10" dragons and how they fit into gameplay.

It maybe up to you and or your GM how to go about worshiping the Dragon gods. In of itself: that is a FUN thing to do.

Thus this post is an elaborate Dot!


Sounds like typicl human worshiper would be a mystery cultist or alone in his faith. Perhaps he got revelation after seeing a dragon in live or from dream.

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