Vow of Poverty Monk with Artifacts

[Lobo Apache]

I'm going to keep this really simple, Artifacts are considered to be invaluable (if you break with apart it means "without value", does this mean that it wouldn't technically count against the Monk to have several Artifacts active on his person?

[Claxon]

No.

[Cyrad]

The only way I can see to justify it is if the monk was strictly guarding the artifacts as some kind of duty to keep them safe from evil. He would never use them and not even keep them on his person unless absolutely necessary. Even then, that's treading on thin ice.

[ArmouredMonk13]

I'd allow poverty monks cursed artifacts, if the curse affect them (and only them), but otherwise, IMO, this is the kind of rules twisting that leads to the gunslinger monk and other things that keep paizo from letting having nice things.

[Lobo Apache]

Actually Invaluable is closer to being "having great value that is impossible to calculate; priceless".

This Idea was seeded into my mind by a friend, not to actually do it, but to annoy the living crap out of the GM with semantics. Just wondering thoughts from others.

[Claxon]

Lobo Apache wrote:

Actually Invaluable is closer to being "having great value that is impossible to calculate; priceless".

This Idea was seeded into my mind by a friend, not to actually do it, but to annoy the living crap out of the GM with semantics. Just wondering thoughts from others.

If I was your GM and you tried that argument I would throw very large heavy books at you. Why do you want to antagonize your GM in this manner?

[Ipslore the Red]

Lobo Apache wrote:

Actually Invaluable is closer to being "having great value that is impossible to calculate; priceless".

This Idea was seeded into my mind by a friend, not to actually do it, but to annoy the living crap out of the GM with semantics. Just wondering thoughts from others.

Point the first: Still wrong.

Point the second: You yourself say that it is "having great value." It's worth a lot, even if you can't quantify that. Still no.

[Chris Lambertz]

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[Redjack_rose]

Another question (Since I'd totally play a poverty monk in home games but not PFS):

Are magic tattoos legal, and do they count against the vow of poverty?

[Claxon]

Redjack_rose wrote:

Another question (Since I'd totally play a poverty monk in home games but not PFS):

Are magic tattoos legal, and do they count against the vow of poverty?

I would say the definitely violate the intent if not the letter of the Vow of Poverty. You're supposed to be impoverished. How would you ever have enough money to get the tattoo? You're not allowed to have more than 50 gp on your person. Vow of Poverty isn't really meant as a PC option IMO, it's supposed to make an interesting NPC character. The are plenty of other vows that aren't nearly as difficult to deal with as the vow of povety. Why not choose one of those instead.

[Redjack_rose]

Claxon wrote:

Redjack_rose wrote:

Another question (Since I'd totally play a poverty monk in home games but not PFS):

Are magic tattoos legal, and do they count against the vow of poverty?

I would say the definitely violate the intent if not the letter of the Vow of Poverty. You're supposed to be impoverished. How would you ever have enough money to get the tattoo? You're not allowed to have more than 50 gp on your person. Vow of Poverty isn't really meant as a PC option IMO, it's supposed to make an interesting NPC character. The are plenty of other vows that aren't nearly as difficult to deal with as the vow of povety. Why not choose one of those instead.

Oh very much violates the intent, (though getting around the "paying for it" would be an interesting challenge.)

Just thought I'd ask. In a home game I feel the vow of poverty could be done, and done well. Sadly for society, there's just too little options (and usually roleplay) for your character to be much more than dead weight.

^_^ thanks

[jimibones83]

ArmouredMonk13 wrote:

I'd allow poverty monks cursed artifacts, if the curse affect them (and only them), but otherwise, IMO, this is the kind of rules twisting that leads to the gunslinger monk and other things that keep paizo from letting having nice things.

I don't see how vow of poverty would be considered a nice thing. Its the crappiest swap I've ever seen.