Two-handed weapons and claws


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Is there anything preventing me from making a full attack with a two-handed weapon, then switching my weapon to one hand (holding it rather than wielding it) and then making a secondary attack with one of my claws?

In fact, since switching hands is considered a free action, is there anything preventing me from switching my weapon to my OTHER hand, and then also attacking with my second claw?

Once that is done, could I then regrip my two-handed weapon with both hands, so as to be better armed with it for the purposes of attacks of opportunity when it isn't my turn?

Surely this is frowned upon, but does RAW actually prevent it in any way?


i think somewhere with either eidolon or bestiary it said something about no attacking with weapon and hand.


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I know stat blocks don't reflect this, and I suppose that implies intent, but I don't recall a specific prohibitive statement within the actual rules.


you cannot make attacks with any hands you use to attack with, if you use a weapon 2 handed you are using both hands to attack and cannot use that hand for a natural attack

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Creatures with natural attacks and attacks made with weapons can use both as part of a full attack action (although often a creature must forgo one natural attack for each weapon clutched in that limb, be it a claw, tentacle, or slam). Such creatures attack with their weapons normally but treat all of their available natural attacks as secondary attacks during that attack, regardless of the attack’s original type.

you have to give up any natural attack having to do with the limb(s) you are using to attack with a weapon, so 2 handed weapon gives up both hands to make the attack, so no claws


What if you're using something like the Beast totem lesser power which has two claw attacks made at full BAB. It doesn't say they're natural attacks, nor does it say they're related to any limbs (ergo they could be feet claws, like they are for Big Cats and Eidolons). How do those work?


Writer wrote:
What if you're using something like the Beast totem lesser power which has two claw attacks made at full BAB. It doesn't say they're natural attacks, nor does it say they're related to any limbs (ergo they could be feet claws, like they are for Big Cats and Eidolons). How do those work?

Those work however you can talk the GM into allowing. In my experience, feet claws have only been allowed for attacks when the character is four-legged or flying.


I've seen them used on bipedal Eidelons before, and this was pointed out by a friend. It seems if I use this while raging to proxy my Armor Spike attacks I won't have to go TWF with Falchion + Spikes.


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Thank you, Drakkiel. That more or less settles it for me. I thought there may be something, but I couldn't recall.

Writer, that is actually why I asked the question in the first place. I just put together a greatsword wielding barbarian with the best totem rage powers.


you can make claw attacks with your feet.

2 Hand sword attack> right foot claw>left foot claw.


Yea I got a Falchion wielding barbarian whose going the DR tank route. until now lesser beast totem was mostly just ignored for me, but now if i can proxy it for my armor spikes it makes for some nice flavour, as my character literally throws himself at the enemy, spikes and all.

Edit: I need it for Mercurial's tankbarian build. That's the only reason I have it.


if you make natural attacks in conjunction with your weapons they will count as secondary attacks and be at a -5


Drakkiel wrote:
if you make natural attacks in conjunction with your weapons they will count as secondary attacks and be at a -5
Writer wrote:
What if you're using something like the Beast totem lesser power which has two claw attacks made at full BAB. It doesn't say they're natural attacks, nor does it say they're related to any limbs (ergo they could be feet claws, like they are for Big Cats and Eidolons). How do those work?


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DiscOH wrote:

you can make claw attacks with your feet.

2 Hand sword attack> right foot claw>left foot claw.

Whoah. I never considered the idea of describing the claw attacks as being on the feet. That's an interesting concept.


Flying Raging Kick-Boxing Barbarian of doom!


a claw is a natural attack since it is a natural weapon, even if they are on the feet...if you say they go on the feet then thats up to your GM I guess...at that point you still have to follow the rules for attacking with weapons and natural weapons, meaning they change to secondary attacks at a -5 of BAB


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Thank you Drakkiel. I concur.

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