what level spells are the Curse spells a Hexcrafter gets?


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The Hexcrafter archetype of the Magus class is a very interesting one but it has a number of somewhat confusing rules elements (this is for PFS play so that further complicates some things - can't just make a house ruling)

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A hexcrafter magus adds the following spells to his magus spell list: bestow curse, major curse, and all other spells of 6th level or lower that have the curse descriptor.

However some spells that this will add (to his spell list - so still need to be added to the Magus' spellbook) have different levels for the classes that get them.

Bestow Curse being the key questionable spell here. Since the Hexcrafter pulls from the Witch I think a strong case could be made that the RAI is for the Magus to get Bestow Curse as a 3rd level spell. However the Magus as a class has a lot of ties to the Sorcerer/Wizard spell lists (with class abilities that open up those spell lists for example) so a counter argument might be made that Bestow Curse should be a 4th level spell for Hexcrafters.

This matters since Bestow Curse as a touch attack spell could make for a fantastic spell to embed in a spell storing weapon or a spell storing suit of armor - and such a usage feels very Magus like (in a home game I would rule this way since it fits so well into the flavor of a Hexcrafter Magus. i.e. discharing a curse at anyone foolish enough to his a magus with a melee or melee touch attack. Or likewise discharging a curse after a successful hit to open combat.

[in PFS play I would probably impose the 50/50 chance of acting each turn as that is quite potent but in a home game I would encourage creativity in the curses]


Marked for FAQs. I have a Hexcrafter player and I quite like this archetype, so I'm very interested in the answer. As is written, I think there are no level modifications, but I would see what developers have to say about it.


Well even with "no level modifications" as your criteria for a spell that different classes (but not the Magus) get at different levels some guidance is needed. (i.e. does the hexcrafter default to the Witch or to Sorcerer/Wizard?)


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This has come up twice before here/this forum, people have posted good lists to get you by until Paizo officially answers.

(And just a heads up, and not to discourage it here but, since both of those threads had multiple FAQ request clicks and it's been a year, Paizo may be awhile answering)

General rule they used: Default to Witch, unless it's not on Witch list, then default to Wiz/Sorc, then default to whatever other class has it if both Witch-Wiz/Sorc don't.

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