0 reach attacks


Rules Questions


I take it tiny and diminutive critters with 0 reach going against small sized and up must move into their opponent's square to attack, provoking an AOO? Isn't there also a rule that they can share a square with a creature two or more sizes larger?
Thanks for your help,
SerpentViolet


"Very Small Creature: A Fine, Diminutive, or Tiny creature can move into or through an occupied square. The creature provokes attacks of opportunity when doing so."


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From the core rules page 194.

Core Rulebook wrote:

Tiny, Diminutive, and Fine Creatures:

Very small creatures take up less than 1 square of space. This means that more than one such creature can fit into a single square. A Tiny creature typically occupies a space only 2-1/2 feet across, so four can fit into a single square. 25 Diminutive creatures or 100 Fine creatures can fit into a single square. Creatures that take up less than 1 square of space typically have a natural reach of 0 feet, meaning they can’t reach into adjacent squares. They must enter an opponent’s square to attack in melee. This provokes an attack of opportunity from the opponent. You can attack into your own square if you need to, so you can attack such creatures normally. Since they have no natural reach, they do not threaten the squares around them. You can move past them without provoking attacks of opportunity. They also can’t flank an enemy.

From the core rules page 193

Core Rulebook wrote:

Square Occupied by Creature Three Sizes Larger or Smaller:

Any creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories larger than itself. A big creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories smaller than it is. Creatures moving through squares occupied by other creatures provoke attacks of opportunity from those creatures.


Thnx! Quite erudite.
SV


what if a titan mauler reduces a medium creatures reach to 0'? (I checked and Evade Reach does not require a creature to be a certain size).


The Titan Mauler's ability to reduce reach only applies on the Titan Mauler's turn. It's purpose is to prevent Attacks of Opportunity that the Titan Mauler might provoke on his turn.

- Gauss


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EDIT: removed for being wrong.


who's wrong?


I think SlimGauge posted something that was based on an incomplete understanding of Titan Mauler's Evade Reach Ability. We posted nearly simultaneous. After he read my post it is my guess he realized his error and edited his post.

- Gauss


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Gauss is correct and I was wrong, so rather than add confusion, I removed my post. I had missed the fact that the Titan Mauler's "Evade Reach" ability only lasts until the end of her turn, and as such only really affects any AoOs the target of the ability might otherwise be able to take.

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