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I apologize in advance if a similar question has been posted. Can anyone give me an answer to the following question? If I have a 9th level archaeologist with Eldritch heritage (arcane) familiar option. Could I take the improved familiar feat? What if I had a multiclassed archaeologist 5/ Fighter 4 same feat? Any help would be greatly appreciated, I am looking for Pathfinder society rules, not house.


You just need the appropriate arcane caster level to take the Improved Familiar feat. If you are an Archaeologist Bard 9, you have a caster level of 9 and can take the feat for any of the options. An Archaeologist 5/Fighter 4 could only take 5th level or lower options.

A straight Fighter (or Oracle, Cleric, Inquisitor, etc.) of any level could not take the feat, as they would have no Arcane Caster Level.

In other words, the Familiar improves by your Sorcerer level (i.e. your level -2), but the feat only cares about your actual caster level. Eldritch Heritage does not grant one of those, so you need to fulfill that requirement yourself.

You could take a Psuedodragon with Improved Familiar at 7th level, but it would only have the stats of a 5th level familiar.


I am pretty sure the caster level for the familiar is your effective sorcerer level.. A 9th level fighter with Eldritch Heritage: arcane is not an arcane caster, but counts as a 7th level caster as far as the familiar is concerned so he could get improved familiar.


Interzone wrote:
I am pretty sure the caster level for the familiar is your effective sorcerer level.. A 9th level fighter with Eldritch Heritage: arcane is not an arcane caster, but counts as a 7th level caster as far as the familiar is concerned so he could get improved familiar.

I am pretty sure that's absolutely not true without a houserule. The feat makes you 7th level for the purpose of your sorcerer features, but it doesn't give you a caster level. The base familiar's power is not based on caster level, after all, just on sorcerer level.


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improved familiar NOWHERE references caster level.
each familiar is available at a variable 'arcane SPELLCASTER level'. not caster level.
'arcane spellcaster' means CLASS LEVEL (of arcane spellcasting class),
more specifically the the class(es) associated with your familiar. want more proof? check the feat pre-reqs:
"Prerequisites: Ability to acquire a new familiar, compatible alignment, sufficiently high level (see below)."
again... NOT 'caster level'. 'level' used like that means 'character level'.
and it's specifically saying that this reference to character level is followed below, in the meat of the feat.

RAI, the 'effective wizard level' used for your familiar, e.g. as per Eldritch Heritage, is what the feat wants.
RAW, you could CLAIM to use any 'arcane spellcaster level', e.g. if you are a full-class non-Arcane Sorceror,
although i'm 99% sure that's not the intent, and that 99% of people using this in PFS use the above RAI.

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