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Upgrading +X items and ioun stones in PFS

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I have a couple questions about the rules to upgrade items in PFS:

1) Can inferior ioun stones be upgraded to normal ioun stones by paying the difference in price?

2) A belt of giant strength +2 can be upgraded to a belt of giant strength +4, but can it be upgraded to a belt of physical might +2? It doesn't change any of the item's prereqs, just adds new ones.

Scarab Sages ****

No to both. The upgrading of +X items allows you to only go from +X to a higher +X. Its fine to go from a belt of giant strength +2 to a belt of giant strength +4, but not to the belt of physical might. And for the ioun stones, they're not +X items, they're just unique magical items that provide a +X benefit so they're not upgradeable.

Liberty's Edge *****

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Actually Mourne, you are half correct.

You cannot upgrade Ioun Stones from inferior to normal, because they are different materials. The base materials can't be changed.

You can, however, upgrade a belt with a +2 Str to a Belt with +2 Str & +2 Dex or +2 Con and later add the 3rd at +2. Should you want to upgrade to +4, then all stats modified by the belt must include the upgrade. So if you had a +2 Str/+2 Con you'd need to upgrade it to +4/+4. If you wanted to add Dex to your +4 Str/+4 Con, you'd need to add it at +4. You cannot have an item that is +2 in one stat and +4 in another. This is also true for the mental headbands.

Liberty's Edge **** Venture-Agent, United Kingdom—England—Chester aka Paz

There's an official clarification that (2) is OK here. This ruling was confirmed as still being valid here.

Scarab Sages ****

I did not know that on the belts. I'll admit that I was wrong there and that I actually learned something new today. =)

Grand Lodge ** RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Paz wrote:
There's an official clarification that (2) is OK here. This ruling was confirmed as still being valid here.

Wow, I could have sworn I remembered that ruling getting reversed. Well, this certainly changes my shopping plans for my fighter! :)

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