Pathfinder Dragon Deities


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


So I have Hero Lab, and have had the ability to buy all the expansion updates available. I have been designing some dragons to use and have been allocating a diety to each of the colors (chromatics). In the creation process, I have discovered named Arch-demons: Kostchtchie, Flauros, and Cyth-V'sug which have White, Red, and Black dragons as worshippers respectively. However, I have not been able to discover the names of the arch-demons who have green and blue dragon followers, and wondered if there was anyone who might know more dieties that may have not been presented in the books released for Pathfinder.

Now, I have found some other arch-demons that have dragon worshippers: Areshkagal and Nurgal. Areshkagal is a demon of greed, which goes along with a Green Dragon's mentality, and Nurgal is a demon of deserts which goes along with a Blue Dragon's environment, and both are worshipped by dragons. Is it possible that these two arch-demons are the missing dieties of the green and blue dragons?

Any help or comments are appreciated.


if it works for you it works for your game world.

I dont think its really going to destroy a game world if you have the wrong dragons worshiping the wrong diety.

if nothing works for you you can always modify an existing diety or invent a new one in order to satisfy the needs of the dragons for a diety.

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You always have Apsu.


Fnatk wrote:

So I have Hero Lab, and have had the ability to buy all the expansion updates available. I have been designing some dragons to use and have been allocating a diety to each of the colors (chromatics). In the creation process, I have discovered named Arch-demons: Kostchtchie, Flauros, and Cyth-V'sug which have White, Red, and Black dragons as worshippers respectively. However, I have not been able to discover the names of the arch-demons who have green and blue dragon followers, and wondered if there was anyone who might know more dieties that may have not been presented in the books released for Pathfinder.

Now, I have found some other arch-demons that have dragon worshippers: Areshkagal and Nurgal. Areshkagal is a demon of greed, which goes along with a Green Dragon's mentality, and Nurgal is a demon of deserts which goes along with a Blue Dragon's environment, and both are worshipped by dragons. Is it possible that these two arch-demons are the missing dieties of the green and blue dragons?

Any help or comments are appreciated.

Blue and Green Dragons are LE and might be expected to worship Archdevils... maybe that's why they lack demonic patrons.

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My mistake, Apsu is the dragon god for good dragons. Dahak (The Endless Destruction), would be the dragon god for the evil dragons.


Joseph Caubo wrote:
My mistake, Apsu is the dragon god for good dragons. Dahak (The Endless Destruction), would be the dragon god for the evil dragons.

Interesting, thanks for that tidbit.

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Fnatk wrote:
Interesting, thanks for that tidbit.

You're welcome. There's not that much to go on, the only information I found was on p. 228 of the Inner Sea World Guide.


Have you tried Dragons Revisited or Rise of the Runelords (one of the ROTR had a long article on Dragons in Golarion)

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Joseph Caubo wrote:
My mistake, Apsu is the dragon god for good dragons. Dahak (The Endless Destruction), would be the dragon god for the evil dragons.

Actually, Apsu is god to both chromatic AND metallic dragons. Chromatics see him as an overbearing father, and don't so much worship as grudgingly admit him as their creator. Only the most degenerate chromatics worship Dahak, and they are outcasts among their own kind.

This is from Dragons Revisited, which is an older book with some stuff that probably isn't canon anymore, but in Golarion all dragons are part of a very large and highly dis-functional family. But they are still a family.

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I'd be careful with Dragons Revisited, quite a bit of this book was retconned as Paizo's vision of draconic presence in Golarion did change ever since.


Gorbacz wrote:
I'd be careful with Dragons Revisited, quite a bit of this book was retconned as Paizo's vision of draconic presence in Golarion did change ever since.

So would you rely on the information contained within Rise of the Runelords? or does Paizo's stance change from that publication too?

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Fnatk wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
I'd be careful with Dragons Revisited, quite a bit of this book was retconned as Paizo's vision of draconic presence in Golarion did change ever since.
So would you rely on the information contained within Rise of the Runelords? or does Paizo's stance change from that publication too?

Actually... the BEST bet is to just go with the parts of the book that you like the most.

The main thing we've reoriented as far as dragons are concerned is that dragons in the Inner Sea region do not spend a lot of time posing as humans and hanging out with humanoids. That's a very Forgotten Realms construct, and we want Golarion to be different. Evil dragons are devastating monsters, and good dragons are remote philosophers/hermits who don't mix with other races much at all—they value their privacy. Hermea is the big exception.

And the Dragon Empires, of course.

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James Jacobs wrote:


And the Dragon Empires, of course.

Sooo... The DE dragons are of the "Well you remember that wacky old drunk we met two days ago? Turns out he's a dragon!" sort?

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Gorbacz wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


And the Dragon Empires, of course.

Sooo... The DE dragons are of the "Well you remember that wacky old drunk we met two days ago? Turns out he's a dragon!" sort?

If there's going to be that kind of dragon ANYWHERE on Golarion, chances are very good he'd be in Tian Xia.

Although they're more like "Remeber that guy who was ruling the nation we were run out of as bandits? Turns out he's a dragon!"

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James Jacobs wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


And the Dragon Empires, of course.

Sooo... The DE dragons are of the "Well you remember that wacky old drunk we met two days ago? Turns out he's a dragon!" sort?

If there's going to be that kind of dragon ANYWHERE on Golarion, chances are very good he'd be in Tian Xia.

Although they're more like "Remeber that guy who was ruling the nation we were run out of as bandits? Turns out he's a dragon!"

Is he the Dragon Reborn?

/I know this is not possible.
//I couldn't resist.


Joseph Caubo wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


And the Dragon Empires, of course.

Sooo... The DE dragons are of the "Well you remember that wacky old drunk we met two days ago? Turns out he's a dragon!" sort?

If there's going to be that kind of dragon ANYWHERE on Golarion, chances are very good he'd be in Tian Xia.

Although they're more like "Remeber that guy who was ruling the nation we were run out of as bandits? Turns out he's a dragon!"

Is he the Dragon Reborn?

/I know this is not possible.
//I couldn't resist.

Not sure if I follow... what are the Dragon Empires, and who is this Dragon Reborn?

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Fnatk wrote:

Not sure if I follow... what are the Dragon Empires, and who is this Dragon Reborn?

Dragon Empires is another name for Tian Xia


Fnatk wrote:
Not sure if I follow... what are the Dragon Empires, and who is this Dragon Reborn?

The Dragon Reborn is a... we'll say, major character from the Wheel of Time novels.

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Jonathon Vining wrote:
Fnatk wrote:
Not sure if I follow... what are the Dragon Empires, and who is this Dragon Reborn?
The Dragon Reborn is a... we'll say, major character from the Wheel of Time novels.

That would explain why I had no idea what you were talking about.

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James Jacobs wrote:
That would explain why I had no idea what you were talking about.

It's a good series, but super long (be prepared to love reading). Yeah, things get crazy when the PCs hit epic levels, but how could it not be crazy then?

/Sorry, I'll stop getting so off topic now.

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