For an Anti-Paladin using a conductive weapons does the Cruelty effects also apply to the damage? Also does target get a saving throw verse the damage&Cruelty (if it applies)?
As far as I can tell the conductive ability simply applies the special ability (touch of corruption in this case) when you hit with a melee attack with conductive weapon once per round. You use 2 charges of touch of corruption. There's no saving throw versus the damage -- only to negate the cruelty. And since the cruelty applies when you use touch of corruption, it should still work if touch of corruption is used through a conductive weapon.
Whenever the antipaladin uses touch of corruption to deal damage to one target, the target also receives the additional effect from one of the cruelties possessed by the antipaladin. This choice is made when the touch is used. The target receives a Fortitude save to avoid this cruelty. If the save is successful, the target takes the damage as normal, but not the effects of the cruelty. The DC of this save is equal to 10 + 1/2 the antipaladin's level + the antipaladin's Charisma modifier.
How are actions handled with conductive weapons? In this example an Antipaladin is using the weapon to conduct his Touch of Corruption ability through the blade. Normally use of Touch of Corruption is a standard action. Does using a conductive weapon still require the expediture of a standard action? The description of the conductive weapon property quoted below is not clear on this.
All it says is: "When the wielder makes a successful attack of the appropriate type, he may choose to expend two uses of his magical ability to channel it through the weapon to the struck opponent".
The reason I ask is to understand one's options for combat. If one is required to expend a standard action then one could never full attack and use Touch of Corruption conducted through a weapon.
Clarification of this would be much appreciated.
A conductive weapon is able to channel the energy of a spell-like or supernatural ability that relies on a melee or ranged touch attack to hit its target (such as from a cleric’s domain granted power, sorcerer’s bloodline power, oracle’s mystery revelation, or wizard’s arcane school power). When the wielder makes a successful attack of the appropriate type, he may choose to expend two uses of his magical ability to channel it through the weapon to the struck opponent, who takes the effects of the weapon attack and the special ability. (If the wielder has unlimited uses of a special ability, he may channel through the weapon every round.) For example, a paladin who strikes an undead opponent with her conductive greatsword can expend two uses of lay on hands ability (a supernatural melee touch attack) to deal greatsword damage and damage from one use of her lay on hands. This weapon property can only be used once per round, and only works with magical abilities of the same type as the weapon (melee or ranged).
How are actions handled with conductive weapons? In this example an Antipaladin is using the weapon to conduct his Touch of Corruption ability through the blade. Normally use of Touch of Corruption is a standard action. Does using a conductive weapon still require the expediture of a standard action? The description of the conductive weapon property quoted below is not clear on this.
All it says is: "When the wielder makes a successful attack of the appropriate type, he may choose to expend two uses of his magical ability to channel it through the weapon to the struck opponent".
The reason I ask is to understand one's options for combat. If one is required to expend a standard action then one could never full attack and use Touch of Corruption conducted through a weapon.
Clarification of this would be much appreciated.
No, it does not take a standard action. It is like a spell storing weapon or a eldritch knight's spell critical. The effect just takes place when you hit with the weapon (and spend the daily uses).
If it took a standard action it could never be used. Whether you make a single attack, or a full-attack action, your standard action has been spend for the turn.*
While you could infer that it is supposed to be usable with a swift or free action only, that interpretation would make a lot of their examples redundant (arcane schools powers for example).
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* Actually never means extremely rarely: The only situation I can think of, is you moving past an enemy and provoking an AoO, as the AoO he uses a combat manuever and provokes an AoO himself. At this point you got an attack without having used a standard action beforehand.
No, it does not take a standard action. It is like a spell storing weapon or a eldritch knight's spell critical. The effect just takes place when you hit with the weapon (and spend the daily uses).
HaraldKlak thanks for the clarification, much appreciated.
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