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GM Wulfson wrote:

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So a pseudodragon (as written) would have an ECL of 5.

I was generious I peg it around ECL 3


Which really makes me wonder how the end ECL was determined.. Seems a bit arbitrary to me..


GM Wulfson wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

So a pseudodragon (as written) would have an ECL of 5.

Hmm says 3 there, so not sure how that gets to 5.

That being said, I cant see a base PD being superior, nor even equivalent to, a 3rd level character, which I guess is why they are CR1. I'd be surprised to last out 2 rounds toe to toe melee against a tank class at L1. I guess PF mechanices are quite different to 3.5.

All that aside, I guess that's what negotiating with a GM is for.


Aurichalcum wrote:
GM Wulfson wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

So a pseudodragon (as written) would have an ECL of 5.

Hmm says 3 there, so not sure how that gets to 5.

That being said, I cant see a base PD being superior, nor even equivalent to, a 3rd level character, which I guess is why they are CR1. I'd be surprised to last out 2 rounds toe to toe melee against a tank class at L1. I guess PF mechanices are quite different to 3.5.

All that aside, I guess that's what negotiating with a GM is for.

It's 3 plus its two hit dice. Adding those together end up as ECL 5.


OK thats a pretty significant departure from PF rules. I never played 3.5 so thats all new to me.

Are they suggesting that a base CR1 creature is equivalent to a 5th level character? That really doesn't sound right.

How do they then align that with Drow or Assimar, for example that have the same CR?

Anyhow - appreciate the views; we'd best let this thread drop and stop the cross chat :)

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