Astonishing Races: Grippli (PFRPG) PDF

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Astonishing Races: Grippli gives the grippli a full-racial review and expansion, emulating the style of the "Core Races" as detailed in books like the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Advanced Race Guide and others.

Astonishing Races: Grippli aims to give players of the Small, frog-like grippli immersive, world-neutral materials and support for almost any kind of play. Included are new and expanded options for alternate racial traits and subtypes, favored class options for all the base, core, hybrid, and occult classes, and three racial archetypes.

The book also has new racial rules for grippli equipment, feats, traits, magic items, spells and more!

So if you’ve ever wanted to play a poison tree grippli, The Exterminator archetype, a gliding jumper with a love of war paint and powders, or just plain love frog-people, Astonishing Races: Grippli is the book for you!

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1/5

As a fan of the Grippli race, I was ecstatic to find out that someone had done a supplementary book about them for pathfinder (even if it wasn't in house). What I got, however, was disappointing and downright lame. 90% of this book is either Paizo's own writing reprinted or a rehashing of the same information from past sources (primarily Dragon magazine, issue #324). Of the information that is new. it's shoddy, rife with syntax errors and glaring mechanical omissions.

The biggest annoyance, however, is not with this product, but with the massive number of low cost PDFs just like it littering this site. It has become an effective business model for many companies to push out numerous fraudulent "books" with barely enough content in them to call an original product, sell them for a few bucks, then turn around to unload the next repacked turd.

If this is the standard Fat Goblin games holds, I'll never purchase a product from them again, and Paizo better review who they let sell on this site before one of these companies gets caught strait plagiarizing.


An Endzeitgeist.com review

3/5

This installment of Fat Goblin games' Astonishing Races-series clocks in at 32 pages, 1 page front cover, 1 page editorial, 1 page ToC, 1 page SRD, 1 page advertisement and 1 page back cover, leaving us with 26 pages of content, so let's take a look!

This review was moved up in my review-queue due to me receiving a print copy.

Ah, Grippli...I have a soft spot for the race. If you never got how awesome they can be - take a look at user NobodysHome's Serpent Skull-campaign journal on the Paizo boards. But beyond the hilarity and genius of said campaign, grippli as a race are interesting: Kinda cute, a bit naive and good frog-people? I don't have to look into the cute froggy eyes to get a kind of warm-hearted Kermit flash-back...but Gripplis are no joke and under-developed. The race has a LOT going for it, but so far, there is not extensive or particularly interesting supplement detailing them out there.

Well, this book seeks to remedy just that. Why is this important? Well, you know that I can be pretty harsh on races - for a reason. Just tacking together a couple of stats is not enough in my book; I want to see information about a given culture, the psychology of the people, the customs - otherwise you're just playing an oddly disfigured human, not a unique race. Suffice to say, the book delivers in that regard. Grippli culture(s) and village types, including desert grippli (yep, these exist - the book notes several subtypes with recommended racial traits) and their lifestyles are depicted. Tribal and somewhat matriarchal grippli definitely make sense to me, as do superstitions pertaining certain creatures and enmities. Rules-wise, age, height and weight tables and the racial stats for the grippli are provided - the latter with an RP-breakdown as per the ARG.

Usually, the presence of the like does not bode well, but here, it is justified: Grippli as a race are not particularly strong and function in every type of campaign, even the lowest, grittiest ones. However, and the book is aware of that, they actually are arguably slightly below standard races in potency. Hence, a suggestion is presented: Among the various alternate racial traits provided for the grippli, one can optionally choose to bring them up to core-race level. Granted, their climb speed is powerful, but overall, I'd suggest you heed this recommendation unless you plan to run a rather low-powered campaign. The process, obviously, is only possible due to each alternate racial trait sporting an RP-value alongside the traditional "replaces x"-line - and as much as the RP-values usually suck at determining a balanced race, the alternate racial traits here, from poison skin to gliding membranes to reduce falling damage and obvious one like deep breath, overall manage to provide a great customization frame-work for the race. And yes, Diplomacy bonuses via the "Princely" trait got a chuckle out of me.

The book manages to score on par with the most detailed of racial supplements in one regard as well: Favored Class Options. Beyond the races we all expect, Advanced Class Guide and Occult Adventures are covered - sometimes interacting with e.g. certain deeds or blessings. They are overall well-crafted...and do something I very much welcome: They comment on how the average grippli psychology and social norms interact with them - a lingering sense of guilt for intrusions in one's mind for mesmerists, psychics in tune with the very swamps they inhabit - this brief pieces of fluff made the usually rather tedious process of reading FCOs rather enjoyable and can provide roleplaying pointers I very much welcome.

Archetype-wise, we get three new options: Bogborn alchemists replace throw anything with mutagens that grant 15 ft. swim speed and may take toxic skin as a discovery. Three new grippli discoveries complement it: Chameleon grippli can enhance their skin to grant +4 to Stealth ( +8 at 10th level), while those with deadly excretions change their toxic skin's poison's effects from Dex to Con. Okay, if not too exciting. The third discovery has a different formatting, with name in italics as opposed to the two bolded discoveries before that - consistency would have been nice here...however, the discovery itself is pretty awesome, allowing you to throw bombs underwater and providing brief, concise rules for throwing bombs at targets below the surface.

Atop buzzing wings, the dragonfly champion does not gain proficiency with heavy armor and gainsan improved tactician that grants teamwork feats for 4 + 1/2 character level rounds. They also get a dragonfly mount and replaces the cavalier's charge ability-tree for scaling, devastating charges when jumping from the saddle of his dragonfly mount, emphasizing a more fluid and agile attack style. And yes, the vermin becomes intelligent - rudimentarily so, but nice catch. The order of the dragonfly receives bonuses when defending at least one member of his tribe when in challenge and adds Acrobatics and Fly to his class skills and adds Cha to the DC to intimidate him. The order abilities per se look interesting: At 2nd level, he can "rally a single member of the tribe with great confidence and ability. The tribe member gains +4 to attack, damage and save rolls and temporary hit points equal to half the cavaliers total as the cavalier rushes to their aid. this lasts for one round." *sigh* I kid you not, that's the text. Okay, it's supposed to say "The tribe member gains a +4 BONUS (also add bonus type)..:" and the rushed to their aid is confusing. Is there a limit? Considering the power-level of the ability, I'd assume so, but I have ultimately no idea. Oh, and yes, the activation action is missing. I *assume* aid another, but that would require serious fixing as well - as provided, the ability is simply non-functional. The higher level abilities work, though flawed punctuation makes them a bit harder to grasp than they should be.

The final archetype would be the exterminator ranger, who gets a sewer-modified skill list and may prepare poisons in specific ways to affect aberrations, vermin and oozes if they're part of his favored enemy array. Overall, while not perfect, this guy is okay.

The new equipment options provided herein are more solid - beyond a variant tanglefoot bomb, we can find ceremonial drums, grippli war paint and a grease-duplicating powder and glowmold lanterns - the items generally are well-crafted, though e.g. lower-case references to attributes made me cringe in the formal department. Bone as material is discussed here as well, considering how many of the grippli's items use it.

Monster-wise, stats for giant dragonflies (CR 4) and their nymphs (Cr 3) are provided...but annoyingly, the dragonfly mounts lack proper mount stats - yep, no starting statistics, no advancement. That's pretty much as glaring of an oversight as any, unfortunately...and it means that the mount assumed by the cavalier archetype...doesn't work as intended.

The feats contained herein are okay, though ultimately nothing to write home about.

The 4 traits depicted do work, though they do sport minor, aesthetic hiccups - penalties, for example, have usually no type. Thankfully, the pdf returns to form with the magic items provided: E.g. bubbles that can hold equipment and be commanded to sink to the bottom of the marsh and dig themselves in? AWESOME idea. The new spells are interesting as well and provide an example where I consider energy-substitution-type spells actually cool: Swamp Fire basically works like call lightning with fire may not win any prizes regarding innovation, but the flavor and visuals make this variant work.

The pdf does end on a high-note, though: A massive table of 50 entries provides random grippli features - from humming tunes to being okay with burping and farting (sounds a bit like your native tongue), these quirks are endearing and fun, providing some nice roleplaying ideas for players and GMs alike.

Conclusion:

Editing and formatting...are still okay, but in some parts seriously flawed; the weird thing about this pdf being ultimately that it oscillates between very clear passages...and some that sport formal editing glitches and significant problems in the rules-language. Layout adheres to a beautiful 2-column full-color standard and the pdf sports numerous gorgeous full-color artworks. The dragonfly-riding grippli in particular is neat indeed. The pdf comes fully bookmarked for your convenience and the print edition has a nice cover and quality paper. The colors are vibrant and the book itself does look really nice.

Rick Hershey, Lucus Palosaari, Troy E. Daniels have crafted a book that leaves me ambiguous - I actually REALLY want to like the grippli presented herein - and I do. The fluff is impressive, particularly considering the need to be campaign-setting-agnostic and the pdf does excel here. However, the different authors do show - from solid rules-language and well-written prose, we go to sections that suddenly read a bit less compelling and sport glaring oversights. The cavalier options are non-functional as presented and represent the most glaring rules-issue herein - generally, the rules-language, while deviating from the standard, at least remains clear enough to work sans ambiguity. There are whole sections that lack issues like this. Basically, the components pertaining the race and its options can be considered nice, while those beyond...are often problematic.

This is frustrating for me - I want to like and recommend this book and it does have a lot to offer; the sheer fact that it provides depth for the grippli-race and the nice logical tidbits regarding culture and racial peculiarities made this more fun to read than many similar race books I've reviewed. At the same time, though, the supplemental crunch and rules-language would have required a more thorough editing/development to be interesting - from the lackluster feats to aforementioned cavalier-option (which is cool, but doesn't work), I wished this material has seen a bit more polish to bring it up on par with the quality of racial tricks and FCOs. Whether you'll enjoy this book very much depends on what you're looking for - if you look for ROLEplaying-options and don't mind the rather less than stellar editing, this may score as high as 4 stars for you; if you look for crunch and precise language, though, then this will not exceed 2.5 stars for you. My final verdict will clock in between these, at 3 stars.

Endzeitgeist out.


5/5

When I first bought Paizo's Advanced Race Guide my wife immediately cooed at the sight of the art for gripplis. And who can blame her? The little squirts are adorable frog-men that you just want a plushie of and have the cutest name. Unfortunately as a small 6 race point creature and not much else to them, they are completely unappealing to play. Plus they have pretty much zero flavor text making them bland to boot. Well today I look at Fat Goblin Game's Astonishing Races: Grippli. I'm not sure what to expect, as I have only really seen four products from FGG, with things either being genius or terrible with nothing in between and I have yet to see how they handle underrepresented races.

The start is very promising with a much more lengthy description of the race. Seriously, there's five pages of fluff before you get to the racial traits. And the lore is very lovely detailing them as very sociable although as a result of crippling fear of loneliness. Adding to their general cuteness it makes you want to pick up and huggle the first little kermit you see.

When we get to the actual crunch we get a reiteration of grippli racial traits but also a sidebar suggesting to choose two extra Alternate Racial Traits to make them more playable which makes me happy. Interestingly the alternate racial traits come with their race point costs so that you can bring them up by the appropriate number. Like a lot of people I feel like the race creation costs are somewhat out of balance and I would never let anyone make a race from scratch due to this, so this is definitely a dangerous precedence but for the grippli alone it doesn't come off terrible with the racial traits being fairly mundane. Here I noticed a few typos (Like Vermin Hunter not making the word 'Attack' plural) but none that cause any confusion or will be noticed at first glance. Of course there are Racial Subtypes that describe types of grippli you can make using the alternate racial traits.

Grippli favored class bonuses are greatly increased in number and come with a surprise. Instead of that boring list of what the favored class bonus does there's some flavor text added. The favored class bonuses are exciting without them, and believe me they are pretty exciting, but its nice to get some flair with them.They also get an alchemist archetype, (not as exciting as the racial discoveries that come with it and boy are those a blast. One of them literally.) a Cavalier order, (Needs some Clarification to be useful.) and a Ranger Archetype, (not badly designed but nothing I would particularly take.). There are also new grippli mundane items and a monstrous mount in the form of a giant dragonfly, and new feats and traits. Most of the feats and traits are pretty mundane but some of them will make you want to roll up a grippli. The magic items, not so much although they are wonderfully written and are cute items and spells that draw out flavor. I can see these being handy for just encountering them.

The document ends with a table of random features. They have no mechanical purpose but again it's cute.

So the name of the game with this product is FLAVOR. I wanted more flavor but at some points this is way more wordy than it needs to be. This can definitely be a good thing because grippli in the base game have almost no flavor but this does mean that it's not a crunch masterpiece. It favors making grippli more adequate and worthwhile to play than loading it up with a lot of options. This isn't to say that there aren't useable options here, and really only one bit had me a bit confused as to how it worked, I'm just not jumping out of my seat to play a grippli over the crunch. I will be jumping out of my seat to play a grippli over the fluff though, which is really appealing here. As it stands the Crunch is valuable but not exciting and the fluff goes above and beyond.

As a PDF the book is ridiculously easy to navigate and is pretty and easy to read.

If you're going to play with grippli you're definitely going to want this if you want them to be playable or interesting. I rate it 5 out of 5 for bringing grippli up to a level of interest in playability that's worthwhile with very few hiccups along the way. Easily a Player Companion quality race book.


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Time to get froggy.


I had a great time working on this with Lucus Palosaari and Rick. If you have any questions or want to chat about Astonishing Races:Grippli post here or drop me a line!


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Reviewed first on endzeitgeist.com, then submitted to Nerdtrek and GMS magazine and posted here, on OBS and d20pfsrd.com's shop.

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