Using fire shield offensively


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

If you cast fire shield upon yourself and start attacking an enemy with unarmed strikes or natural attacks, do they take damage from the shield? What if you grappled them?

I'm looking to turn into a dragon with dragon shape III and swing away at some magic immune golems with magic immunity. I don't really have anything else that bypasses SR and this is all I can think of to help my party.

I'm sure the answer is "no you can't," but if that's the case, how do you rationalize the spell? The fluff of the spell is obvious: Anything that touches you gets burned. Why wouldn't this be true regardless of whether you are reaching out to something, or something is reaching out to you?

Silver Crusade

Well, I imagine the damage only occurs when they strike you RD:

"This spell wreathes you in flame and causes damage to each creature that attacks you in melee."

"Any creature striking you with its body or a hand-held weapon deals normal damage, but at the same time the attacker takes 1d6 points of damage + 1 point per caster level (maximum +15)."

From what I can see, it does not effect them if you initiate the attack. The magic only reacts when an attack comes towards you.


Yeah, I think the "wispy flame" thing is just visual effect.

The actual effect triggers on you getting hit. It might work if you got them grapple you. I think grapple checks to do damage still count as melee.

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