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RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16. Goblin Squad Member. RPG Superstar 2014 Star Voter. Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Card Game, Class Decks, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber. FullStarFullStar ACG Venture-Lieutenant, Maryland—Silver Spring. 3,029 posts (7,760 including aliases). 9 reviews. 1 list. 2 wishlists. 34 Pathfinder Society characters. 22 aliases.


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Silver Crusade ** RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 aka cartmanbeck

Woo, everything I wrote in Monster Summoner's Handbook looks to be legal! Time to build me a tattoo-focused summoning Sorcerer or Arcanist!

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:
Hmmm....yes that might work. Probably need to wait until next month, but I think I could take one or both of you up on that offer.

HUZZAH! *Rushes off to start planning the "Day of the Hawkmoon"*

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:
Ugh! I so wish there was a store near me hosting the card guild. I might have to make a few special trips up into Pennsylvania or down into Maryland to get the full experience. Definitely need to see about getting and more play by post going.

Hawkmoon, I would be happy to schedule some game days in my neck of Maryland if you're going to plan to be there! Perhaps we could try to plan a couple of full days of gaming on a weekend? I could find us space in Baltimore pretty easily... it's the least I can do for such a helpful member of the community!!

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Very cool stuff! She'll be an interesting addition to the game... and hugely difficult to make work in OCTGN, but that's my problem. LOL

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Dylos wrote:
Why is the Iconic Kenesist a young human? Last I checked that wouldn't be PFS legal.

The iconic characters aren't really created with PFS in mind. I'm assuming whoever ordered the art for the kineticist imagined her as a young human and wrote the character's backstory with that in mind. Can one of us create a young character for PFS? No, but you can play this one.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

I've already posted over in Gameplay (I'm Ella Fiddlepocket)

Ella's PFS number is 44004-23

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

To expand Pirate Rob's description just a bit, the current version of the Vigilante has four different "specializations" which roughly equate to the four standard adventuring party members... there's a Fighter-style specialization that gets full Base Attack Bonus, a Cleric or Inquisitor-style specialization that gets Divine spellcasting, a stealthy Rogue-style specialization that gets a specialized version of sneak attack damage, and an arcane specialization that gets to cast spells and toss out "mystic bolts" of energy damage at his enemies.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

I'm not sure if it's totally RAW, but I would say they should default to 1 HD, because that's what a human has before taking class levels. But it would never increase unless you add a template that increases racial HD.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

I'm definitely in.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Huzzah! I was worried this one had died before getting started! :)

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

I totally agree that letting you dip a talent from another vigilante specialization should definitely be an option.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

I think light armor casting would make it more feasible, yes. That might be just the bit this class needs at 1st level, especially given that the Zealot can cast just fine in any armor.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Yeah I feel like there is just... SOMETHING missing at 1st level. Sorcerers also get a bloodline power at 1st level, which often gives a 3+Cha per day spell-like ability. I don't think that mystic bolts at 1st level is necessarily the missing thing, but SOMETHING. :)

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Alright, so I've now played one full session over roll20 with a lvl 4 Warlock, and i'm in a PFS play-by-post with a 1st-level Warlock as well. Here are my thoughts:

At 1st level, i'm feeling like just a weak Sorcerer. The social persona doesn't give much of anything at such a low level either. A few 1st-level spells just doesn't give you much to work with, and the 150gp PFS staring gold doesn't go far for scrolls and such, so I'm mostly tossing an acid splash every round.

At 4th level I was feeling much more useful, and I really enjoyed the mystic bolts (even with nerfed damage). I was using them with Two-weapon Fighting, though there are suggestions that I could have also used Rapid Shot to get a third bolt in a full attack... is that true?

Now, flavor-wise, I LOVE this class. The PFS game I'm playing has several VERY colorful characters, including a Tengu DARKWING DUCK. Not kidding. The first few posts of that scenario made me love the Vigilante no matter what the rules content of it end up being.

The 1-minute change time makes a lot more sense than 5 minutes, so good job there. I think the biggest thing I would suggest is to give the Warlock something else to use at 1st level... not sure what it would be at the moment though.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

:( Looks like this game might be a non-starter.

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I'd just like to reiterate how awesome it is that you guys make things like this transparent to those of us who care when our auth spawns and such things. You all rock!

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I'm interested, James, but I do want to point out that, from the reviews, this might not be the best scenario for a brand-new PFS GM to run. Make sure to read through it like 50 times before you totally commit to this, as you don't want your first PbP to be one that falls apart.

All that being said, I would probably play my Occultist character, Ella Fiddlepocket

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Loving the changes. Now I wish I had started my PbP playtest with a Zealot instead of a Warlock! The Zealot now holds much more promise in my opinion than it did before.

I also enjoy that the Stalker now deals MORE damage with hidden strike when the foe is unaware, but LESS damage than a rogue when simply flanking. Gives you a reason to truly consider whether you'd prefer to be a rogue or a Stalker vigilante. :)

Ooh, and I like cunning feint! Not sure if that was in the first version of the playtest, but I just noticed it. Very cool!

Oh man, and so is "Leave an Opening!" What a great way to get extra attacks when surrounded by enemies!

Silver Crusade ** RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 aka cartmanbeck

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Nope, you are entitled to the rebuild and can do it without any sign-offs or anything. PFS is still at least mostly a trust-based campaign, and we generally trust that our players are going to do the right thing until we see that they don't.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Bump? GM Sound, are you still around? I think we've probably got all the applications we're gonna get.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

@Quandary: While I certainly agree that some of these things could be useful for NPCs, I really wrote the guide from the perspective of a player trying to optimize their PC, so I don't think it'd be a good use of my time to go back and add NPC percpectives to each one. I might add a quick blurb toward the top about this though.

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I love that you used the kobold costume image to base him off of. Very cool. I look forward to hearing how your game went.

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I humbly submit Eldamar the Vanaran street performer and his trained wallaby, Jooni:

background:

Eldamar was born in the jungles of the Mwangi expanse, but early in his life found the life of vanaran tribes to be boring. He set out on his own as barely a teenager, traveling between large cities, pickpocketing for a living and learning the ways of the city. He settled himself in the wooded areas near Kaer Maga in Varisia about five years ago, and one day came upon a small creature with intelligent eyes who was caught in a bear trap. He felt for the creature, and released it, then nursing it back to health. He and and wallaby became fast friends, and Eldamar named it Jooni. Jooni's unnatural intelligence has helped Eldamar immensely in his panhandling within Kaer Maga, and now the pair are becoming almost famous in some circles of Kaer Maga thanks to their street shows involving complicated acrobatic moves.

stats:

Eldamar
Male vanara unchained rogue (Carnivalist) 1
CN Medium humanoid (vanara)
Init +5; Senses low-light vision, Perception +7

DEFENSE
AC 16 Touch 14 FF 12 (+2 armor, +4 Dex)
hp 10 (1d8+2)
Fort +2 Ref +6 Will +1

OFFENSE
Melee sickle +4 (1d6)
Ranged sling +4 (1d4)
Special Attacks

STATISTICS
Str 11, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 10
Base Atk +0; CMB +0; CMD 14
Feats Alertness, Dodge, Weapon Finesse
Skills Acrobatics +10, Bluff +4, Disable Device +8, Escape Artist +8, Kn. local +5, Perception +7, Profession (street performer) +5, Sense Motive +3, Stealth +10, Use Magic Device +4
Traits Ambush Training (+1 init, +1 damage during surprise rounds), Tropical Upbringing (+1 vs. fire, +2 vs. hot weather)
SQ nimble, prehensile tail, familiar (wallaby [mauler]), finesse training, trapfinding
Languages Common, Vanaran, Sylvan
Gear
2 scroll, mage armor

backpack
bedroll
belt pouch
caltrops
10 chalk
flint and steel
grappling hook
iron pot
mess kit
mirror
10 pitons
rope
soap
thieves' tools
10 torches
5 trail rations
waterskin

2 acid
2 alchemist's fire

harness
beast whistle
whip

Wallaby familiar:

Jooni
Female wallaby familiar
CN Small animal
Init +2; Senses low-light vision, scent, Perception +3

DEFENSE
AC 14 Touch 13 FF 12 (+2 Dex, +1 natural, +1 size)
hp 5
Fort +2 Ref +4 Will -1

OFFENSE
Melee kick +2 (1d3+1)
Special Attacks

STATISTICS
Str 12, Dex 14, Con 11, Int 6, Wis 9, Cha 4
Base Atk +0; CMB +0; CMD 12
Feats Skill Focus (Acrobatics)
Skills Acrobatics +9, Bluff -2, Disable Device +3, Escape Artist +3, Kn. local -1, Perception +3, Profession (street performer) +0, Stealth +10, Use Magic Device -2
SQ bond forged in blood, alertness, improved evasion, share spells, emathic link

1. Are you from Kaer Maga or a visitor there? 

Eldamar is not from Kaer Maga but has been settled near the city for several years.
2. What traits have you chosen and how do they tie into your backstory - I'd like more than a mechanic justification for your choices. 

Ambush training: This trait is a result of being born in the tribal life of the vanara, having to catch what you want to eat to survive.
Tropical Upbringing: Eldamar was born in the jungles of Mwangi, and is used to hot temperatures from birth.
3. What will your character contribute to the party mechanically, in and/or out of combat?
Eldamar will be a good skill-monkey (HAHA PUNNY) and once he gains a few more levels, he and his wallaby familiar will be flanking enemies and each doing sneak attack damage. I also plan to take a few levels of Fighter (Eldritch Guardian) to grant his familiar any teamwork feats he has to increase his combat abilities.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Hmm... might be. I'll consider it, but it'll definitely depend on the time I have available to me. If you have suggestions on specific main-bloodlines that would have really good synergy with other class VMCs, please post them here and I'll see what I can do. :)

Silver Crusade ** RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 aka cartmanbeck

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Any chance someone could link that one? I'm having trouble finding that page.

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I'm sure they'll eventually get all of the iconics into base sets. While I agree that some of the Occult iconics would have been perfect for Mummy's Mask, the art and character backgrounds probably just weren't ready in time for the Mummy's Mask cards to be designed.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

None of the Occult Iconics are a Sylph. The sylph that's going to be in Mummy's Mask is NOT one of the traditional Paizo iconics (this was confirmed at PaizoCon). They're trying to open up a bit more design space by using some non-iconics in future sets.

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The confusion probably stems from the fact that I already edited the page yesterday or the day before to move that sentence from the italicized portion to the main text (because in my opinion, it belongs there). So Cuuniyevo, can you look at the page again now and see if it makes more sense to you now?

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FLite wrote:
d20pfsrd.com wrote:
I'll see what I can do to address your points James.

While you are at it. :)

The Traits > Religeous notes that they require worship of specific dieties (not listed there) but on the pages for the traits themselves there is no note of that requirement. Might be a good idea to add that.

Unfortunately this is one of the things that cant' really be done, as the specific deities' names can't be listed there since those names are not covered as part of the Compatibility License. For religion traits, I would absolutely suggest checking Archives of Nethys for deity requirements before you take one of them.

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I am definitely still interested if you've lost other players.

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Claxon wrote:
Corwin Illum wrote:

The biggest thing I have noticed with d20pfsrd is with certain campaign specific / Golarion attributes. In particular with traits and feats that require a certain god, or various other "named" pieces. Such as Blade of Mercy for Saerenrae or Defensive Strategist for Torag. Similiarly, The 'Aldori' Dueling Sword is just called Dueling Sword, and the 'Aldori' Swordlord prestigue class is called just Swordlord. Wayang Spellhunter trait is instead called 'Metamagic Master'.

To be honest, I am not sure how AoN gets away with it while d20pfsrd doesn't.

I've never seen an actual rules piece be wrong, unless it was something new that recently changed. Those that have changed I have seen get changed farirly quickly.

It's because d20pfsrd started running itself as a business and selling merchandise. When they did so Paizo requested, or rather asserted, that they could no longer use their copyrighted material. This basically amounts to all the proper nouns of gods, locations, cities, etc. Up until d20pfsrd decided to start selling things they in fact had all the copy written material on the website.

The reason the Archives of Nethys is allowed to operate is that it is a fan made, non-profit website.

Just to give a LITTLE bit more clarity here:

Archives of Nethys operates under the Pathfinder Community Use Policy, which d20PFSRD.com used to as well. When the proprietor of d20PFSRD decided to start selling and publishing books using the site, Paizo sent him a (very nice but stern) email saying that he would now have to conform to the Paizo Compatibility License, which allows one to use all the RULES content of Pathfinder but none of the setting-specific material. So, rather than revert back to how things were before, John decided to run with it, and we edited out all the Golarion-specific content.

I then created pathfindercommunity.net as a community use supplement to the d20PFSRD, where I could put the golarion-specific stuff and link out to the main site. However, I got very little traffic (the only things on that site that really get traffic are my guides) so that site fell by the wayside and hasn't been updated in quite a while.

So, for Golarion-specific stuff like the Aldori Dueling Sword, Archives of Nethys is still the place to go, and probably always will be.

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

But see I think that this issue is with the way it's written in the book, not with the way it's been translated over to d20PFSRD.com. I would argue that a kitsune monk CAN take one of these in place of a monk bonus feat, because the line in the book says "any time she would gain a feat." A monk bonus feat is a feat you're gaining. There's no indication in the book that that line is NOT rules text.

So I guess I don't understand why the site is being blamed for the ambiguity of text found in the book.

But alright, let's say that we've screwed up this time and that sentence is NOT rules text at all. Fair. We can change that (though I personally don't believe we should) or make a FAQ box on the side that talks about the controversy. And that's the beauty, I think, of the site... you can see when there's a controversy and both sides of the argument are generally shown there.

Anyway, I am not in any way trying to suggest that the d20PFSRD is the end-all be-all for Paizo rules, but I do take offense when someone badmouths the site, because I know there are many people who spend a lot of their free time to get all that info up on that site and make it freely available (and I used to be one of them, though I unfortunately haven't had time to devote to the site in a while).

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James Risner wrote:
cartmanbeck wrote:
Now, the ONLY change that has been made was taking a line that applied to each of the three listed feats, and applying it to a single feat because of the format of the site

They way it is portrayed looks like a rules line from the feat, and the book makes it clear that line isn't a rules line as that is the only line in a sidebar box. If they just dumped the feats on you without any header it would look odd. The ONLY header they give you is "A kitsune may select this feat any time she would gain a feat." which is basically "here are some more feats you can pick".

There is no indication in the book these feats can be chosen when given a list, but there is a never ending supply of threads where people use the PFSRD's improperly modified wording to suggest as much.

When a resource causes arguments over rules, that resource is a problem.

I personally don't understand how it could be misinterpreted to mean anything other than "a kitsune can take this feat", which is what it's supposed to mean. And if the text instead said "Here is a feat that a kitsune can pick" would you like that better? And who's to say that it's not a rules line? It's a line in the book that tells you that the feats are meant for kitsune... that seems like a rule to me.

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LazarX wrote:
Jodokai wrote:
PFSRD is AMAZING in that they add the FAQ's and link them, and searching their site is easy, as opposed to Archives of Neyths where doing an actual search will take you longer than just clicking through link. I also don't like the color scheme of Archives, but that's a personal thing.
Good job of pissing on one of the more notable VOLOUNTEER pieces of work from the community. PFSRD is a commercial entreprise, in case you haven't noticed.

This post really bugs me... most of the people who work on the site ARE volunteers. I worked on the site for several years and never got paid for it. Just because d20PFSRD is now also a publishing company doesn't make it any less of a community effort. And the OP was not in any way "pissing" on the Archives of Nethys. I freely admit that I often use the Archives of Nethys when I want to look up information on gods of Golarion or other Golarion-specific information that just can't be included on d20pfsrd.com.

James Risner wrote:


Many times, one example is Fox Shape feat with it's editorial "Special:" line added by pfsrd. There are more examples.

Okay so, looking at this example, the ONLY thing that was done differently here than what was in the actual book is the placement of a single line from the book:

D20PFSRD text wrote:


You can change into a fox in addition to your other forms.

Prerequisites: Cha 13, base attack bonus +3, kitsune.

Special: A kitsune may select this feat any time she would gain a feat.

Benefit: You can take the form of a fox whose appearance is static and cannot be changed each time you assume this form. Your bite attack’s damage is reduced to 1d3 points of damage on a hit, but you gain a +10 racial bonus on Disguise checks made to appear as a fox. Changing from kitsune to fox shape is a standard action. This ability otherwise functions as beast shape II, and your ability scores change accordingly.

Dragon Empires Primer Sidebar wrote:


Bonus Kitsune Feats
A kitsune may select from the following feats any time she would gain a feat.
Fox Shape
You can change into a fox in addition to your other forms. Prerequisites: Cha 13, base attack bonus +3, kitsune. Benefit: You can take the form of a fox (Pathfinder RPG
Bestiary 3 112) whose appearance is static and cannot be changed each time you assume this form. Your bite attack’s damage is reduced to 1d3 points of damage on a hit, but you gain a +10 racial bonus on Disguise checks made to appear as a fox. Changing from kitsune to fox shape is a standard action. This ability otherwise functions as beast shape II, and your ability scores change accordingly.

Swift Kitsune Shapechanger
You can change shape more quickly than most kitsune. Prerequisites: Dex 13, base attack bonus +6, kitsune. Benefit: You can assume human or kitsune form as
a swift action. If you have the Fox Shape feat, you can assume fox form as a swift action as well.
Normal: A kitsune’s change shape ability is a standard action.

Vulpine Pounce (Combat)
You can change shape mid-charge and pounce on an opponent in the same round.
Prerequisites: Swift Kitsune Shapechanger, base attack bonus +10, kitsune.
Benefit: When you change shape into your kitsune form and use the charge action in the same round, you can make a full attack against your opponent.

Now, the ONLY change that has been made was taking a line that applied to each of the three listed feats, and applying it to a single feat because of the format of the site. It does not in any way change the way the feat functions. In fact, I wouldn't call that "editorial" at all. It's a formatting issue only, and was probably the simplest way the person adding the feat to the database could think of to include that information. The alternative was to leave that line out, which would THEN have been "editorializing" in my opinion.

So, can you provide us with a few more examples of where the info that has been posted on d20pfsrd.com is added information that detracts from the clarity or understanding of the material for the user? Because I really don't think that example qualifies.

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@UnArcaneElection: Fixed and fixed!
@KainPen: Good call! I've updated that and given it a green rating for EH.

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I am also very intrigued by this. I would be interested in playing in it if Korak is willing to run it, and if you'd be willing to have it be a party instead of just a single character. Either way, color me interested in reading the thread once you make it happen.

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Well then, I'll jump in with a Poog. Probably refluff him as Goog. Yay!

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Got it. :)

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Has it been clarified that you can use all of your spells in the social persona? Cuz by a blind reading of the rules, you only get Arcane Training I when you're in the social persona, which means you can only use 1st and 0-level spells.

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Are you guys all full up? I would be interested if you've still got space. :)

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I'll also be withdrawing, as I don't have time for another submission at the moment. But I wish good fortune to those chosen, and will continue to watch for more Mummy's Mask games that get started up! :)

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Nanite bloodline is up!

@UnArcaneElection: I would definitely like to do the bloodrager if I can find the time. It'll be a little while though.

@explodingtyphlosions: I would definitely go Stormborn over any of the standard elemental type bloodlines, and definitely consider the Arial version of Stormborn so that you can cast a storm-themed spell that causes precipitation and get a good deal more damage.

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Hazrond wrote:
cartmanbeck wrote:
Only one bloodline left to go! (Nanite)

Any ETA on that? :P

I play in an iron gods game and i had an idea for a crossblooded Nanite/Impossible Sorcerer

I'll try to attack that one tomorrow night if possible.

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Fixed the pure strain, which has been FAQ'd to be replaced with repulsion. Not sure what you're getting at with the heroic echo though.

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I agree totally with Theryon. Compare the availability of Paizo promos to, say, Steve Jackson Games' Munchkin promos. You've got a LOT more opportunities as a completionist here than you do there. It's time to end the complaints about promo availability. No one is forcing you to buy the promos.

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I just didn't want to end up having us ALL be the same type. I think I'm going to go Warlock, as it's the one that caught my attention most right off the bat.

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Same here, will put together my vigilante tonight and post with his new profile. :)

EDIT: Consequently, what types of Vigilantes are you all planning to play?

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Well, technically you could have played it, but you would have had to double up on some pregens. Not ideal. :)

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It was only for actually playing We Be Goblins Free. Don't worry, you probably got 2 prestige points anyway, which is all the Prestigious Goblin boon gives you. :)

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I would hope once there are at least 4 goblin characters out there that it would be considered. :-D

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