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My take is that you can only do what you could do normally, but at a 30' range.

Ie: your keyhole example is fine, while 'around the corner' (I assume not near the corner) is not.

Ultimately, it would also seem to fall under the targeting rules. You must be able to target it in some fashion. A lock is a visible, targetable object while a lock around a corner that you cannot see is not.

Yup. :)

Saethori, if being petrified means you are an object then stone to flesh would not work.

CRB p350 Stone to Flesh wrote:
Target one petrified creature or a cylinder of stone from 1 ft. to 3 ft. in diameter and up to 10 ft. long

There is nothing in the rules that states a creature, having been turned to stone, is now an object.

Further evidence that petrified creatures are not objects:

CRB p284 Flesh to Stone wrote:
The creature is not dead, but it does not seem to be alive either when viewed with spells such as deathwatch.
CRB p265 Deathwatch wrote:
Using the powers of necromancy, you can determine the condition of creatures near death within the spell’s range.

It is clear that the petrified creature is still a creature, albeit with the status condition petrified.

The term is not 'stoned' it is 'petrified'.

CRB p568 wrote:
Petrified: A petrified character has been turned to stone and is considered unconscious. If a petrified character cracks or breaks, but the broken pieces are joined with the body as he returns to flesh, he is unharmed. If the character’s petrified body is incomplete when it returns to flesh, the body is likewise incomplete and there is some amount of permanent hit point loss and/or debilitation.

So, if the petrified creature has had significant defacing (body parts removed etc) that will probably kill or disfigure the creature when it is returned to flesh.

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The key phrase is "same casting". Your example has you casting fireballs multiple times. Those are not the "same casting".

If I cast Spiritual Hammer and have it target an enemy with SR I roll the SR check only once and it applies for as long as the spell is going.

Even if I send it away to attack something else and then bring it back to attack the enemy.

Now, if I cast a SECOND Spiritual Hammer spell that is new casting and thus I roll a new SR check.

Summary: You roll SR for each fireball.

Heimdall666, as usual, Pathfinder has left off the rules that explicitly stated this and in its place left 'hints' as to the rules.

3.5 DMG p204 section on Suitable Mounts wrote:
At least one size category larger than the character.

In Pathfinder the hints, repeated throughout the rules (including the feat Undersized Mount which is also part of the rules), clearly indicate that a mount should be a minimum of 1 size larger than the person riding it.

You can choose to ignore that RAI, but it is RAI.

As for the feat not being a rule, you are being obtuse. Feats are rules. Even guidelines are rules (according to the Devs).

You can cast Enlarge Person on your mount (Share Spells allows this).

The mounted rules are pretty badly written.

However, the intent of the rules (backed up by the feat Undersized Mount) is that the mount must be at least 1 size larger than the person riding it which would mean that once that is no longer the case you are no longer riding your mount.

As a GM I would probably rule that either you use a move action to dismount (or quick dismount) or you fall off (as per soft fall).

I suggest just taking the feat and won't have an issue with it your undersized mount any more.

Additionally, carrying capacity is an issue. Your mount's carrying capacity needs to be sufficient to carry your x8+x2equipment weight.

Assuming your character weighs 200lbs and has 100lbs of gear that works out to 200*8+100*2 (generally gear is double weight for a large creature) = 1800lbs.
To carry that much weight you would need a horse with a minimum of 23 strength.
If your horse does not have that much strength then I suggest purchasing Muleback cords for your horse or using the spell Ant Haul.

You cannot ride a mount that is your size without the feat "Undersized Mount" (Advanced Class Guide) or a similar ability.

I could see two interpretations the way it is written.

CRB p349 Stone Shape wrote:
Target stone or stone object touched, up to 10 cu. ft. + 1 cu. ft./level
CRB p349 Stone Shape wrote:
You can form an existing piece of stone into any shape that suits your purpose. While it’s possible to make crude coffers, doors, and so forth with stone shape, fine detail isn’t possible. There is a 30% chance that any shape including moving parts simply doesn’t work.

A) The stone object touched must not be larger than the target size.

B) The stone object can be larger than the target size but the area affected is 10cu ft +1cu ft/level.

The comma between the two halves in the target line seem to be two different elements, not one combined element.

Additionally, the description would make less sense if it were A because you would not be able to make a door in a wall (the most common application of making a door).

My take is that it is B.

Dave Justus wrote:

Whenever another player becomes a lich, I leave the group.

Maybe I'm intolerant, but I just can't handle rolling my dice, eating my pizza and drinking my Mountain Dew while across the table is an animated rotting corpse.

I would take video of the walking, talking corpse and sell it to the highest bidder. Perhaps line the lich player up on talk shows.

To elaborate on what Trekkie wrote, every size modifier to AC is the same as the size modifier to hit.

That means that the modifiers for combatants of the same size balance each other out.

First level familiars have an intelligence of 6 and are therefore capable of learning a language due to the high enough intelligence score (they do not need to spend a skill point in linguistics to do this). This was covered in the blog Rub-Eta linked above.

Monkey See, Monkey Do blog wrote:
Once a creature's Int reaches 3, it also gains a language.

The "Speak with Master" ability does not have any wording precluding this.

What "Speak with Master" does is provide the familiar the ability to speak with the Master (which is important for familiars that did not have it before) and that that communication is unintelligible to others without magical aid.

3.0: -1 per 5lbs of carried and worn gear.
3.5: double ACP.
3.P: ACP.

A wizard (or sorcerer) can summon creatures of any alignment regardless of the wizard's alignment.

However, some classes are prohibited from using spells of a certain alignment and summoning an aligned creature makes the spell that alignment (summoning a Lemure = evil spell).

So a Cleric worshiping a good god could not summon a Lemure because the spell is evil but a good Wizard can summon a Lemure because it has no such restriction against spells of a certain alignment.

Note: some GMs may suggest a change in your character's alignment if you are regularly using spells of an opposing alignment. That is up to you and your GM.

Angel Hunter D, the need for handholds applies specifically to ceilings.

Without handholds you cannot climb a ceiling unless you can climb smooth surfaces (such as with Spider Climb).

For other surfaces handholds equate to a lower DC, they do not make the surface possible.

A rock wall with handholds has a DC of 15.
A rough rock wall (without handholds) has a DC of 25.
(This is as per the examples in the Climb skill.)

Bestiary p145 Malevolence wrote:
This ability is similar to a magic jar spell (caster level 10th or the ghost’s Hit Dice, whichever is higher), except that it does not require a receptacle.
CRB p309 Magic Jar wrote:
If you are successful, your life force occupies the host body, and the host’s life force is imprisoned in the magic jar. You keep your Intelligence, Wisdom, Charisma, level, class, base attack bonus, base save bonuses, alignment, and mental abilities. The body retains its Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, hit points, natural abilities, and automatic abilities. A body with extra limbs does not allow you to make more attacks (or more advantageous two weapon attacks) than normal. You can’t choose to activate the body’s extraordinary or supernatural abilities. The creature’s spells and spell-like abilities do not stay with the body.
Bestiary p301 wrote:
An incorporeal creature has no natural armor bonus but has a deflection bonus equal to its Charisma bonus.

The deflection bonus is not a mental ability, it is an ability based on being having the incorporeal sub-type. The body you are possessing is not incorporeal and thus does not have the deflection bonus.

I think you and your GM are overthinking the moving of rocks.
Every move action you move 5lbs per level of rocks 15'.
You have two move actions per round so you can move 5lbs per level of rocks 30' or two groups of 5lbs per level of rocks 15'.

The questions for your situation are:
1) What is the individual weight of any rock?
If that rock weighs more than your your limit you cannot move it.
If this is a pile of rubble and not boulders then the answer is probably not relevant since most construction is made up of relatively small stones.

2) How many pounds of rock are in the way and need to be moved?
This is probably a GM judgement call unless the scenario rules call it out.
However, from Ultimate Equipment we know a shovel can move 2 cubic feet per minute (assume that is 20 move actions).

We also know that 2 cubic feet of common fire clay bricks weigh 300lbs.

So, assuming you are level 4 you can move 20lbs per move action which allows you to clear 2 cubic feet of fire clay bricks in 15 move actions (7.5 rounds).

Of course, the material could be denser (such as marble) which would take you a bit longer (17 move actions @level 4) but would still be faster than the shovel.

Regarding climbing:

CRB p91 wrote:
You need both hands free to climb, but you may cling to a wall with one hand while you cast a spell or take some other action that requires only one hand.

So you need both hands but can go to 1 hand while clinging to the wall.

You do not need tools to climb. With a climb speed you can climb any surface provided you can beat the climb DC.

Regarding making the check:
Make sure you train your climb skill. Because you have a climb speed you can take 10 in all climbing situations AND you have a +8 bonus to your climb skill due to having a climb speed. This means that you can automatically beat any DC that is 22 or lower with just 1 skill point put into climb (assuming no penalties).
take 10 +1skill point + 3(class skill) +8(climb speed bonus) = 22
Note: the DCs can exceed 30 so put more points in if you can.

You can take double moves (-5 climb check penalty) but you cannot run while climbing.

Unlike people without a climb speed you keep your dexterity bonus to AC.

CRB p91 wrote:
A creature with a climb speed has a +8 racial bonus on all Climb checks. The creature must make a Climb check to climb any wall or slope with a DC higher than 0, but it can always choose to take 10, even if rushed or threatened while climbing. If a creature with a climb speed chooses an accelerated climb (see above), it moves at double its climb speed (or at its land speed, whichever is slower) and makes a single Climb check at a –5 penalty. Such a creature retains its Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any) while climbing and opponents get no special bonus to their attacks against it. It cannot, however, use the run action while climbing.

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The same as if it was not shrunk down to medium size. The rules only account for the size of the creature to determine reach. There is no rule that states weapon size is relevant to reach.

If you take a Tiny 2handed weapon with the reach property and stick it in the hands of a medium character (counts as a light weapon) it would still have the reach property and still allow the medium character to threaten 10'.

Does this make "logical sense"? No, but this is the rules forum where rules do not have to make sense. :)

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Texas_ogre wrote:
I am new to pathfinder and a GM and player> they party of player is a dm'ing are rule mongers. They always have detect magic going do end y thing magic (I,e, traps or item are pointless. I need a to know if there is a fix for this ? They have it running at all times. This has made magic raps pointless. help please

Texas_ogre, basically, traps have been progressively marginalized with each new version since 3.0 came out.

Back in the "good old days" you could have a dungeon full of traps and only a rogue could do anything about it. This had a number of problems.
A) It REQUIRED a rogue to be part of the group. No Rogue? You are screwed if you ran into a trap.
B) Traps were LETHAL compared to nowadays. Even simple traps did a lot higher damage relatively than traps do since 3rd edition. The damage of the traps hasn't changed that much, the health of the characters has.
C) Traps back in the "good old days" were usually boring or frustrating. Either you could figure your way around them or you couldn't.

I agree that traps need to become more relevant, but they should not be an encounter unto themselves (usually). That is bad trap design. The best traps are the ones that have a battle involved.
As for Detect Magic, that is really a non-issue. Perception does even more, is not directional, everyone can do it, and is not restricted by distance (just penalized for distance).

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Orfamay Quest wrote:

Just because it's a slow day in the office, I'm going to actually do an analysis of how hard it is to do any serious damage with traps....

I present unto you all <drum roll>, Nabisco the Incompetent, Bard of Bards. (All stats 13, no useful skills except his Perception score is +5 [+1 Wis, +1 rank, +3 class skill], no useful equipment or spells. He's got max hp at first level [9] and saves of +1/+3/+3). He will attempt to walk through the Hall of Infinite CR 1 Traps, encountering each one in turn -- but fortunately, because this dungeon is "not dynamic with monster movement," he can just back out and heal up before wandering in again, so he always encounters each trap at full hp.

Now, as a CR 1 creature himself, (actually, CR 1/2 because he effectively doesn't have PC wealth), he should, by the logic of the CR system, die 50% of the time or more at each trap. If he doesn't -- if he actually survives most of these traps -- that will show you just how ineffective traps are at causing casualties.

So let's begin.

I) He stumbles across the threshold and spots an arrow trap. With +15 to hit, it almost surely hits him for 2-9 points of damage, but he almost certainly stumbles back and recovers. Even at full damage, he is not dead, only seriously injured -- and from here on, I will assume average damage for simplicity.

II) On his next trip, he crosses the same threshold, but because the arrow trap doesn't self-reset, he's safe.... until he steps forward onto the collapsing floor. Needing a DC 15 Reflex save to avoid it, he naturally fails and tumbles 10 feet down, taking 1d6 damage.

III) Bypassing the unrepaired collapsing floor, he instead trips and slides into a...

And this is why I ad-hoc CRs from traps. The existing CRs are almost always too high.

Not an official list, no.

In order to be made into a potion (or oil) the following must be true:
1) The spell must be level 3 or lower.
2) The spell's casting time must be less than 1 minute.
3) The spell must target 1 or more creatures or objects.
4) The spell cannot have a range of personal.'d. :P

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nosig, the Wizard doesn't need identify to identify magic items. Detect magic + Spellcraft will do nicely for most items.

Otherwise, good stuff. :)

And that is why you can make a house rule, but that doesn't change the rules as they are written. :)

These kinds of contradictions are a product of a rules system that does not (and cannot) take every possible scenario into account. That is why the GM should work with the players to figure out what works for their table but that discussion has no place in this forum.

You cannot have it both ways Rysky. Either he is resisting the spell, thus requiring an attack roll and saving throw, or he isn't.

In any case, this is a futile discussion. You are ignoring several rules and trying to logic your way around them. You are free to houserule that you can use beneficial non-attack spells in an AoO, but that is not how the rules are written.

Here you go:

CRB p216 wrote:
(harmless): The spell is usually beneficial, not harmful, but a targeted creature can attempt a saving throw if it desires.

By declaring he did not want the spell (thus forcing an attack roll) the recipient has already declared that he is resisting the spell and thus is going to make the save attempt.

You cannot have it both ways, either you are resisting the spell (necessitating both the attack roll and the save) or you are not.

And yes, this is cheesing the system because this is clearly not the intent of the rules. Does that mean it is an unreasonable house rule? No, and I did not say it was.

So lets go with your logic: The "ally" acts like an "enemy" in order to be eligible for you to make an attack of opportunity to buff them.

Next, since they have already declared that do not want the effect cast upon them they must now roll a saving throw to negate/reduce the buff (most buffs have a save).

Yup, now your buff spell just failed altogether. Enjoy! :)

(Note: this is just me following your logic to it's conclusion, not that I agree with this is still an attempt to cheese the system.)

Rysky wrote:
None of the language in these spells even suggest that I actually don't have to make an attack roll to use something beneficial against an ally, that's just an assumption that the Ally in question isn't dodging the beneficial spell.

Actually, the rules SPECIFICALLY state that you automatically touch an ally (friend) but require an attack roll to touch an enemy.

CRB p185 wrote:
You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack roll.

Again, you have failed to show how touching an ally with a beneficial spell qualifies as an attack where I have shown in several places that the rules qualify an attack as something that is offensive in nature, harmful, or a hindrance. There is nothing in the rules anywhere that indicates a beneficial effect is an attack.

Note: you have tried to conflate things by bringing up inflict spells. While the wording is similar between inflict and cure the effects are dramatically different in most cases.
Cure spells used to heal = not harmful.
Cure spells used to hurt undead = harmful.
Inflict spells used to hurt non-undead = harmful.
Inflict spells used to heal undead = not harmful.

Again, if it is harmful it is an attack, if it is not harmful, not a hinderance, etc. then it is not an attack.

Yes, but touching an ally with a beneficial spell does not require an attack roll nor does it count as an offensive combat action (the first part of the sentence you keep ignoring).

Rysky wrote:
Gauss wrote:
CRB p208 wrote:
Attacks: Some spell descriptions refer to attacking. All offensive combat actions, even those that don’t damage opponents, are considered attacks. Attempts to channel energy count as attacks if it would harm any creatures in the area. All spells that opponents resist with saving throws, that deal damage, or that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks. Spells that summon monsters or other allies are not attacks because the spells themselves don’t harm anyone.
Right there, if there is no harm, it is not an attack.

The second sentence outright disagrees with you.

And the "don't harm anyone" part of that paragraph is only applying to summon spells.

You took the section you bolded out of context. You forgot the bit about whether or not it is an offensive combat action.

Healing someone is not an offensive combat action.

As for the harming, there is another sentence there you are glossing over that defines what are attacks. "All spells that opponents resist with saving throws, that deal damage, or that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks."

Spells delivering a beneficial effect are not attacks.

In short, anyone trying to use an AoO to deliver a beneficial spell is trying to sidestep the rules.

Hardness does not depend on thickness, the number of hitpoints is dependent upon thickness. However, that still does not apply to armor which has hitpoints equal to 5*armor bonus +10*enhancement bonus.

The table for common object hardness and hitpoints.

Table for hardness

To determine the armor's hardness first determine the material the armor is made of then use the second table for the hardness and add +2 for every +1 enhancement bonus the armor has.

To determine the number of hitpoints multiply the armor value by 5 and add +10 for every +1 enhancement bonus the armor has.

CRB p208 wrote:
Attacks: Some spell descriptions refer to attacking. All offensive combat actions, even those that don’t damage opponents, are considered attacks. Attempts to channel energy count as attacks if it would harm any creatures in the area. All spells that opponents resist with saving throws, that deal damage, or that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks. Spells that summon monsters or other allies are not attacks because the spells themselves don’t harm anyone.

Right there, if there is no harm, it is not an attack.

My take: the game does not clearly identify who is an enemy and who is an ally. That is up to the people playing to determine.

However, you still cannot deliver a held cure spell as an AoO if that cure spell has a positive benefit. You can only deliver it as an AoO if it has a negative benefit (thus constituting an attack).

While not a written rule there is a basic underlying principle here. NPCs and monsters are written as 1/2dX added together THEN rounded down.

Note that 1/2dX is not the same as X/2. It is average number which is the total sum of all possible rolls divided by the number of possible rolls. For 1d6 that is (1+2+3+4+5+6)/6 = 3.5

Example: 5d8 = 5*4.5 (4.5 is 1/2 of 1d8) = 22.5 rounded down to 22 (+mods).
Check any monster in the Bestiary and you will see that is true. :)

So, non-PFS hitpoint average is as follows (used for NPCs and monsters):
1d6 = 3.5
1d8 = 4.5
1d10 = 5.5
1d12 = 6.5

PFS hitpoint average is as follows:
1d6 = 4
1d8 = 5
1d10 = 6
1d12 = 7

Edit: This information (average hps) was included in the 3.5 DMG on page 198.

3.5 DMG p198 wrote:


Instead of rolling for hit points when she gains a level, a player may (if you use this variant) take the average roll for the class (see the table below). Constitution modifiers still apply. Below-average hit points hurt a PC more than above-average hit points help, so this variant makes characters slightly more powerful.

The table then went on to show what I have showed via math above (D6 gained 3 hp every even level and 4 hp every odd level, this being based on getting maximum hp at first level and the first 1/2 hp is at your first even level).

The rules are silent.

But, you can just get a Ring of Eloquence (3500gp) to speak while wildshaped.

Yup, your int goes up you gain another known 1st level spell in your spellbook. Enjoy!

You want the spell Suppress Charms and Compulsions.

The rule regarding ending rage is wonky. By RAW, if you are unable to take actions (stunned, paralyzed, whatever) you cannot stop raging but that is clearly not the intent.

So, go with the intent here, which is that if your first thing to do on your turn is drop rage then you are not paying for another round of rage.

Is there an actual "Rules Question" here?

Perhaps this should be in a different forum such as the Pathfinder RPG General Discussion forum?

As per that forum's description: "This forum is for general comments about the Pathfinder RPG and discussing the system with other gamers."

This seems more in line with a discussion about the system as opposed to a Rules Question.


Just for clarity: they gain the modifiers listed in the table on CRB p212 which is different in places from the modifiers listed in Bestiary p296 Table 2-2 Size Changes.

Make sure you are using the correct table. :)

MeanMutton, Chess Pwn is correct.

A tiny creature (such as most Familiars) having Alter Self cast upon it would have +4 Strength and -2 Dexterity modifiers (as per the Table on CRB p212) before the Alter Self spell's ability score modifiers of +2 Strength or +2 Dexterity kick in.

CRB p212 wrote:
If a polymorph spell is cast on a creature that is smaller than Small or larger than Medium, first adjust its ability scores to one of these two sizes using the following table before applying the bonuses granted by the polymorph spell.

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Just a note, staggered creatures CAN coup de grace, but it takes two rounds to perform.

CRB p186 wrote:

Start/Complete Full-Round Action

The “start full-round action” standard action lets you start undertaking a full-round action, which you can complete in the following round by using another standard action. You can’t use this action to start or complete a full attack, charge, run, or withdraw.

hasteroth, if you cast shocking grasp you are holding the charge until you discharge it. Spell Combat does not change this.

A couple examples of how this works:
1) I cast shocking grasp and miss my touch attack. Next round I can try to touch again.

2) I am a Magus and cast shocking grasp, I miss with my 2 sword attacks. Next round my attack hits and discharges the spell. (Note: I won't have a second attack because I wasn't using spell combat.)

3) I cast Shocking Grasp before combat, I am holding the charge. A couple rounds later combat starts and my first hit (either touch attack or through my weapon if I am a Magus) discharges the shocking grasp into the target.

I would not add Life Surge to the regenerated temporary hp. I would add it to the maximum temp hp like it would for most other effects.

So the Skin of Klendar the Troll King would grant 5+enhancement temporary hp and regen 1/round as normal.

Undone wrote:
Gauss wrote:

Here is how I handle it: every step in resolving something is a point you can use an immediate (or readied) action but some immediate actions are only useful in certain steps.

Example (note: I might be missing a step, this is just a quick example):
Enemy is casting a spell. (first step)
You use spellcraft and identify the spell. (second step)
Enemy's spell is finished and he targets "X". (third step)
Spell effect is resolved. (fourth step)

Now, you could disrupt the spell in steps one and two but by step three it is too late.
In step three you can do something to mess with the targeting (teleport away, throw up a wall, whatever).
In step four you could do something to mitigate the effect but it is too late to avoid the spell being cast and targeted at that person.

With all that said, there are no rules covering when immediate actions can occur. It is all a judgement call. Some immediate actions are useful at certain points while others are not. Thus it is more common sense rulings than anything else.

Step three is still a time. Part of the ultimate phrase "ANY TIME" which means it's interrupt-able.

Saying once you chose a target is absurd because it's illogical and pointlessly silly.

Let's say A and B are players with E as enemies and X as empty square and we'll call it an archer for the sake of simplicity.


Archer is looking at wizard B when he draws his arrows and EFS to save himself then the archer snaps 180 just before letting multiple arrows fly into A.

There are by the laws and rules of casting clear visual and auditory effects including effects to determine the direction of casting as wizards know to exact geometric coordinates. Spending a life of geometic fire cubing as a wizard would grant him intimate knowledge of knowing if the 3rd finger up or half up meant 3 squares or 4.

As you pointed out in 4 steps there are more steps before "The effect is resolved". At any point before "The effect is resolved" Is a valid...

Undone, you have completely failed to understand what I wrote.

How do I know that? Because you think that I said you cannot use EFS during "step three". You absolutely can.
What I wrote was you cannot disrupt the spell during step three. That is completely different. Why can't you disrupt it? Because it is cast already and the opportunity for disruption has passed.

Please try to read what I wrote rather than taking a single line out of context.

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Here is how I handle it: every step in resolving something is a point you can use an immediate (or readied) action but some immediate actions are only useful in certain steps.

Example (note: I might be missing a step, this is just a quick example):
Enemy is casting a spell. (first step)
You use spellcraft and identify the spell. (second step)
Enemy's spell is finished and he targets "X". (third step)
Spell effect is resolved. (fourth step)

Now, you could disrupt the spell in steps one and two but by step three it is too late.
In step three you can do something to mess with the targeting (teleport away, throw up a wall, whatever).
In step four you could do something to mitigate the effect but it is too late to avoid the spell being cast and targeted at that person.

With all that said, there are no rules covering when immediate actions can occur. It is all a judgement call. Some immediate actions are useful at certain points while others are not. Thus it is more common sense rulings than anything else.

Ultimately your options (without multiclassing) are:

Elemental Spell metamagic feat (or rod).
The Rod can be made to work while using spell combat by means such as the glove of storing, a tail (or extra arm) that can hold an object, etc.

You can reduce the cost of metamagic by one by taking the Magical Lineage or (maybe both?) Wayang Spellhunter traits.

There may be other ways to reduce the cost of metamagic.

You cannot combine polymorph and size changing effects.

CRB p212 polymorph wrote:
You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.

Additionally, enlarge person does not stack with size altering effects.

CRB p278 Enlarge Person wrote:
Multiple magical effects that increase size do not stack.

So, the following does not work:

Enlarge Person + Polymorph (violates both rules)
Enlarge Person + Kinetic Form (violates the enlarge person rule)
Polymorph + Kinetic Form (violates the polymorph rule)

Blymurkla wrote:
Brf wrote:

Why is it impossible to kill someone with unarmed attacks?

You can choose an unarmed strike to do lethal damage.

I'm slightly bored, a bit tiered and not paying enough attention. I should probably stop answering threads for the evening. Of course it is possible.

My point still stands though. And the fact that you can chose to deal lethal or non-lethal damage with your attacks actually adds to that. Imagine if that was true for real life. The number of involuntary manslaughter incidents would be pretty low, I believe, and the US police would have a much better reputation.

Not really, non-lethal damage in PF can still kill. Roll a crit on a level 1 NPC with 4 hp and an 8 con and you might very well kill him.

In 3.5 the rule is that, in general, creatures are as tall as their space.

3.5 DMG p29 wrote:
As a general rule, consider creatures to be as tall as their space, meaning that a creature can reach up a distance equal to its space plus its reach.

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