Cloak of Human Guise for Tieflings and Aasimar


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Sovereign Court 1/5

Posted here because of the PFS house rule that Aasimar and Tieflings are "half-human."

Cloak of Human Guise states:
This plain cloak only has any effect when worn by a member of a half-human race, such as a half-orc or half-elf...

Half-Orc and Half-Elf are given as examples, but the language does not seem to restrict it to just those two races. Since we have two other half-Human races due to the PFS house rules, could they hide their extraplanar origins with this item?

Shadow Lodge 4/5

They are not "half human" in that sense. It's a poor choice of words that is meant to convey that they are always medium humanoids with both human and outsider ancestry. They are never small humanoids, and they are never humanoids of outsider and [dwarf, elf, tengu, etc.] ancestry.

They do not count as humans for the purposes of any game effect unless you have an ability that overrides that (such as "Scion of Humanity").

Sovereign Court 1/5

I disagree with your assertion, but I agree that it won't work for other reasons. The magic of the cloak is based off of Disguise Self, and that spell does not let you change your Type (Outsider vs. Humanoid). Since the cloak further restricts you to appearing human, I'd say that's out.

Now, whether Disguise Self could make an Outsider look like a Scion of Humanity Aasimar may be up for debate since they are both Outsiders.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

My assertion is that they are not "half-human" in the sense that half-elves and half-orcs are. You know, races that have an ability that specifically calls out that they count as both human and [race] for all effects related to race?

What about that do you disagree with?

Sovereign Court 1/5

The part about being half-human for all effects related to race does not exist in the wording for the item. Merely that they be half-human in some sense. I think you are making a logical leap that may or may not be correct.

The cloak of human guise was released in UE, which was released after the ARG. So one could make the assumption that the developers were aware of more half-human possibilities than half-orcs and half-elves. I think this is reflected in their wording where they include those two races as possibilities, but do not restrict it to just those two races (which they could have done.) I choose to believe the choice of words is significant.

But like I said before, while I disagree with you as to why, I agree that this item can't hide a Tieflings horns or an Aasimar's anime eyes.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

And while I don't disagree with your reason, I still say mine's better. :P

But seriously, it's just a poor choice of words. They are not "half-human" in regular PFRPG and the PFS "house rule" isn't meant to make them so.

Lantern Lodge 3/5

So does a Ranger's favored enemy affect Aasimar and Tieflings in PFS if the ranger chose human as a favored enemy?

The Exchange 4/5 5/5 *

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Secane wrote:
So does a Ranger's favored enemy affect Aasimar and Tieflings in PFS if the ranger chose human as a favored enemy?

No, as they are not humans but rather "Native Outsiders"

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