If a quinggong monk could use arcane strike, would it increase in damage as they level up?
If a quinggong monk could use arcane strike, would it increase in damage as they level up?
Arcane Strike is based on caster level. Spell-like abilities have a caster level. Arcane Strike damage would increase as the caster level of the monk's spell like abilities increased.
Just be sure you're not counting Barkskin for the purposes of qualifying for Arcane Strike. Since it's not on any arcane spell lists it's considered a divine spell-like ability.
Already saw someone else make that mistake, figured I'd warn you just in case.
Barkskin is on the summoner list, so it can be arcane.
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From the FAQ
How do I know whether a spell-like ability is arcane or divine?
The universal monster rules for spell-like abilities states: "Some spell-like abilities duplicate spells that work differently when cast by characters of different classes. A monster's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order."
Since Barkskin is not a Sorc/Wiz spell, moving down the list it would be a Druid spell. Thus, it is a Divine spell like ability.
It continues.
The same rule should apply for all creatures with spell-like abilities, including PC races: the creature's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order. Use the spell type (arcane or divine) of that class to determine whether the spell-like ability is arcane or divine.
From the FAQ
How do I know whether a spell-like ability is arcane or divine?
The universal monster rules for spell-like abilities states: "Some spell-like abilities duplicate spells that work differently when cast by characters of different classes. A monster's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order."
Since Barkskin is not a Sorc/Wiz spell, moving down the list it would be a Druid spell. Thus, it is a Divine spell like ability.
It continues.
The same rule should apply for all creatures with spell-like abilities, including PC races: the creature's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order. Use the spell type (arcane or divine) of that class to determine whether the spell-like ability is arcane or divine.
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From the FAQ
How do I know whether a spell-like ability is arcane or divine?
The universal monster rules for spell-like abilities states: "Some spell-like abilities duplicate spells that work differently when cast by characters of different classes. A monster's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order."
Since Barkskin is not a Sorc/Wiz spell, moving down the list it would be a Druid spell. Thus, it is a Divine spell like ability.
It continues.
The same rule should apply for all creatures with spell-like abilities, including PC races: the creature's spell-like abilities are presumed to be the sorcerer/wizard versions. If the spell in question is not a sorcerer/wizard spell, then default to cleric, druid, bard, paladin, and ranger, in that order. Use the spell type (arcane or divine) of that class to determine whether the spell-like ability is arcane or divine.
The list should be updated with the APG classes. As Is, a SLA that is based on a spell that belongs only to classes not in the CRB is in a RAW limbo.
Seems that the intent based on the order of the CRB classes is in order :
1) full-casters before partial casters
2) arcane before divine
3) religious before natural
Seems that the intent based on the order of the CRB classes is in order :
1) full-casters before partial casters
2) arcane before divine
3) religious before natural
That order would mean witch comes before cleric. I'd be surprised if that's the case as it would mean the default for cure spells would be arcane.
Maybe though. FAQ clarifications have certainly baffled me before.
- Torger
Given that Paizo tries to make sure that rule errata/faqs function without need for any of the accessory books, I don't believe you should hold your breath for any changes to the list. The changes aren't neccessary. Just look at the FAQ regarding oracles and the spell spirit weapon, they admitted it was a reasonable house rule to swap the contributing stat, but the RAW stands as it is in the spell write up.
I guess they can always add a
0) CRB before any other book.
Though they wouldn't need to add that if left the way it is now.
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Though they wouldn't need to add that if left the way it is now.I guess they can always add a
0) CRB before any other book.
I agree that the matter might be completely theoretical, but supposedly, you could have a spell that would be only on the Summoner and Oracle lists (and not in any CRB list).
As Is, we cannot know whether the corresponding SLA should be classified as arcane or divine.
Well, if it was Summoner only, Summoners are arcane casters so it should be arcane.
If Oracle only, then Oracles are divine so it should be divine.
For this to be a problem, it would have to be a spell that was on no Core classes, but on both an arcane and divine class list.
For example, since Witches have some normally-divine spells on their list, a spell that was only on the Oracle and Witch list would be problematic.
But since the chance of that are very small, I doubt it should cause any issues.
There are several eidolon specific spells that are summoner only.
They have no reason to exist as SLA's, but they are there.
Legendary Item.