No more monthly releases


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So at this month's paizo live on twitch, paizo announced that they are changing from monthly releases to quarterly releases. and instead of 3, 4, or 6 books for an AP they will be 1 single volume together.

I honestly quite like this change.


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Huh. That should make it a bit easier on my shipping costs as well, although the ones for the big shipments will obviously be higher now.


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Presumably it'll be cheaper to ship one larger book than three to six smaller ones though.

I'm not sure how I feel. On the one hand, I like that an entire AP can be in one book, something that is much more doable with the new three-part format. On the other, it feels weird thinking of Paizo not having an AP releasing every month.


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Ah, that the coherence of APs will now be easier to manage, it should also be easier to release pawns once more for each AP :)


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I think this is purely a positive change! It’s not like anyone realistically should have been starting an AP before the whole thing was released anyway. The only downside I can think of is that there’s now more of a wait in between APs, but the logistical problems this solves as well as the cohesion it allows across an entire AP more than makes up for that.


vyshan wrote:

So at this month's paizo live on twitch, paizo announced that they are changing from monthly releases to quarterly releases. and instead of 3, 4, or 6 books for an AP they will be 1 single volume together.

I honestly quite like this change.

Which technically could mean that books might switch from 3, 4, 5 or 6 parts "more easily".

lotrotk wrote:

Ah, that the coherence of APs will now be easier to manage, it should also be easier to release pawns once more for each AP :)

Internal coherence/consistency (writers) and

willfromamerica wrote:
I think this is purely a positive change! It’s not like anyone realistically should have been starting an AP before the whole thing was released anyway. The only downside I can think of is that there’s now more of a wait in between APs, but the logistical problems this solves as well as the cohesion it allows across an entire AP more than makes up for that.

external coherence/consistency (Game Masters, Players)


Are they going to keep the Adventure Path branding, I wonder? I mean, if they are releasing APs in a single volume then they are functionally similar to, if longer than, the Pathfinder Adventures line of modules.


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Well done!
In fact, in Italy, for many years now, the entire Adventure Path selected for translation has been offered to Italian players in a single volume, and it's a very popular choice among players!

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Perpdepog wrote:
Are they going to keep the Adventure Path branding, I wonder? I mean, if they are releasing APs in a single volume then they are functionally similar to, if longer than, the Pathfinder Adventures line of modules.

They're still going to be Adventure Paths, and longer than the standalone adventures.

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Perpdepog wrote:
Are they going to keep the Adventure Path branding, I wonder? I mean, if they are releasing APs in a single volume then they are functionally similar to, if longer than, the Pathfinder Adventures line of modules.

Yes. The format is changing, but the function and role of the Adventure Path is not changing. They'll continue to offer 9 to 11 levels of play (depending on the story) while the standalone adventures will continue to focus on shorter things or anthologies.

Liberty's Edge

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No more monthly hype and social activity within the community while waiting 1 month for the next release.

I hope this will not be too big a blow to these forums which are already not at their liveliest.

Dark Archive

hate to be more negative but I see myself less likely rather than more getting ap's now Lot to plop down for a single purchase and previously I could buy the first volume and decide if I wanted the rest or not which I obviously cant do with this new format.

Grand Lodge

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Myself, I'm very excited for the change. Hardcover books tend to hold up a bit better in my experience, so when I want to take a book to a table I think it'll hold up to transport a bit better I think. I'll echo other sentiments that I'm hoping this works out to be a more coherent story vs the monthly installments. When running adventures I always had to spend some time meshing volumes together.

Hopefully this also means that APs are easier to keep in stock. I'm trying to build a complete collection of APs and there are two or three where I'm missing a volume or two. Having them all combined would make collecting a lot easier.

Grand Lodge

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Oh that's nice to know. Good thing I looked here or I might have missed the news about the fundamental change to the way APs are released. Thanks.

-Skeld

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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NerdOver9000 wrote:
Hopefully this also means that APs are easier to keep in stock. I'm trying to build a complete collection of APs and there are two or three where I'm missing a volume or two. Having them all combined would make collecting a lot easier.

This is one of the main reasons for the change, in fact. Cutting the number of things a store has to order and stock from 12 a year to 4 a year is going to be an enormous help in keeping adventures in stock in your FLGS and the like.


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It's fitting that the last single issue AP will involve the Runelords. If the era is to end, let things come full circle.


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It would be very interesting to know what’s changed here. Paizo has been doing monthly Adventure Path episodes for the best part of twenty years; I can think of plenty of potential advantages of the shift, but none that wouldn’t also have been advantages 5, 10, 15 years ago.

Dark Archive

I would guess a couple of things. First they used to refer to having to shift to creating Pathfinder and the monthly subscriptions as keeping the lights on. So there is probably a cash flow element and one that was repeatedly tested by supply chain challenges the last few years. And the other is being able to test the waters with hardcover only releases with Starfinder. I'm excited for this change as well since the hardcovers are going to be a better value.


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DavidW wrote:
It would be very interesting to know what’s changed here. Paizo has been doing monthly Adventure Path episodes for the best part of twenty years; I can think of plenty of potential advantages of the shift, but none that wouldn’t also have been advantages 5, 10, 15 years ago.

I expect it is a series of pieces. One, James already mentioned is one SKU per AP is easier for distributors and stores to stock. Two, printing costs, printing X quantity of 1 book, will be a lot less complicated then print x of book 1, x-y of book 2, x-z of book 3, where z is more than likely bigger than y. Three, is a guess, but I assume getting a book out quarterly is going to lessen (but not remove some of the time crunch) for AP releases. But most of those are my educated guesses, only Paizo knows for sure.

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