Bard rounds


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Hi Friends,

Currently playing a Bard in one of the campaign I am in. I wondering what a strong round for a Bard typically looks like who has the Maestro and Warrior muse. His allies are a Barbarian, a Rogue, a Cleric and a Magus. FA rules are in effect and we are currently level 12. I typically cast Inspire Courage + Heroics on the second round of combat combined with One For All (aiding the barbarians strike) and a Strike in hopes to extend the Heroics (with the orchestral brooch). On round 1 I typically move to get into the right position and then cast a strong level 6 spell (sometimes Slow 6, Roaring Applause 6 or Synaptic Pulse 6, if one enemy then probably a Synesthesia) depending on how many enemies etc. On other rounds when Heroics is not active, I may All for One + Inspire Courage + Courageous Assault thus giving our Barbarian a +5 to his Assault reaction and effectively a +7 if he's flanking with someone. What do people normally recommend, should I be doing something else with my first and second rounds?

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I think this sounds quite good, setting up the battlefield with spells, then buffing your teammates.
(Heroics is now called Fortissimo btw)

One for All makes you very versatile, good choice on a charisma caster.

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To me personally, Bards serve to make the group the best they can be, thus making themselves shine in turn! It sounds like you're doing that very well already.

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On the whole tho, it sounds like you have a reasonable enough opening set of maneuvers.
Is anyone identifying the enemies in your party?
Walls are also really strong. A Chromatic Wall or Wall of Force can be an extremely effective round 1 in some fights.
To save on higher level slots, Rank 3 Fear never really goes out of style.


Our Magus identifies sometimes. I don't have Wall of force in my repertoire as level 6 is a very competitive spell level. Should I be carrying perhaps a scroll of it for use?

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Don’t listen to anyone else!

You need to take both the Folklorist and Campfire Chronicler dedications.

Spend all actions, every round, everyday, Offering Stories, Spinning Tales, and blasting out the Anthems.

Peak Bard activity.

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The Total Package wrote:
Our Magus identifies sometimes. I don't have Wall of force in my repertoire as level 6 is a very competitive spell level. Should I be carrying perhaps a scroll of it for use?

A scroll for this is never a bad idea unless you already have too much to carry!


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Old_Man_Robot wrote:

Don’t listen to anyone else!

You need to take both the Folklorist and Campfire Chronicler dedications.

Spend all actions, every round, everyday, Offering Stories, Spinning Tales, and blasting out the Anthems.

Peak Bard activity.

Interestingly, that wouldn't be an unplayable character.


Maya Coleman wrote:
The Total Package wrote:
Our Magus identifies sometimes. I don't have Wall of force in my repertoire as level 6 is a very competitive spell level. Should I be carrying perhaps a scroll of it for use?
A scroll for this is never a bad idea unless you already have too much to carry!

The difficulty may come in using the scroll though. It would effectively require two rounds to cast. One round to draw the scroll and all three actions of the next round to cast the wall.

The exception being if you are a Magus character that has a hand available for holding items. Many Magi do not. Starlit Span Magi generally use 1+ hand weapons and would not have a hand available for carrying items. Inexorable Iron Magi use 2 hand weapons. Laughing Shadow Magi generally need to have a hand completely free including free of items.


Old_Man_Robot wrote:

Don’t listen to anyone else!

You need to take both the Folklorist and Campfire Chronicler dedications.

Spend all actions, every round, everyday, Offering Stories, Spinning Tales, and blasting out the Anthems.

Peak Bard activity.

Ugh, this guy. He doesn't shut up. What happened to the bard that just quipped about stuff or the one that slept with the dragon?


Eoran wrote:
Maya Coleman wrote:
The Total Package wrote:
Our Magus identifies sometimes. I don't have Wall of force in my repertoire as level 6 is a very competitive spell level. Should I be carrying perhaps a scroll of it for use?
A scroll for this is never a bad idea unless you already have too much to carry!
The difficulty may come in using the scroll though. It would effectively require two rounds to cast. One round to draw the scroll and all three actions of the next round to cast the wall.

I think you are reading too quickly. The ally is the Magus. The caster in question has a Repertoire.

Still good information about the hand usage when thinking about carrying around scrolls that aren't needed for every battle.


Eoran wrote:
Maya Coleman wrote:
The Total Package wrote:
Our Magus identifies sometimes. I don't have Wall of force in my repertoire as level 6 is a very competitive spell level. Should I be carrying perhaps a scroll of it for use?
A scroll for this is never a bad idea unless you already have too much to carry!

The difficulty may come in using the scroll though. It would effectively require two rounds to cast. One round to draw the scroll and all three actions of the next round to cast the wall.

The exception being if you are a Magus character that has a hand available for holding items. Many Magi do not. Starlit Span Magi generally use 1+ hand weapons and would not have a hand available for carrying items. Inexorable Iron Magi use 2 hand weapons. Laughing Shadow Magi generally need to have a hand completely free including free of items.

Now it's restricted to have only one but Retrieval Belt may help if you are play a magus with a free-hand or 1+ weapon.


Eoran wrote:
Maya Coleman wrote:
The Total Package wrote:
Our Magus identifies sometimes. I don't have Wall of force in my repertoire as level 6 is a very competitive spell level. Should I be carrying perhaps a scroll of it for use?
A scroll for this is never a bad idea unless you already have too much to carry!

The difficulty may come in using the scroll though. It would effectively require two rounds to cast. One round to draw the scroll and all three actions of the next round to cast the wall.

The exception being if you are a Magus character that has a hand available for holding items. Many Magi do not. Starlit Span Magi generally use 1+ hand weapons and would not have a hand available for carrying items. Inexorable Iron Magi use 2 hand weapons. Laughing Shadow Magi generally need to have a hand completely free including free of items.

My Bard is armed with a shortbow. I could carry the scroll in my hand prior to battle if I suspect I could use it I guess, if we enter battle and it isn't required I could most certainly drop it without taking any action penalties.

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OrochiFuror wrote:
Old_Man_Robot wrote:

Don’t listen to anyone else!

You need to take both the Folklorist and Campfire Chronicler dedications.

Spend all actions, every round, everyday, Offering Stories, Spinning Tales, and blasting out the Anthems.

Peak Bard activity.

Ugh, this guy. He doesn't shut up. What happened to the bard that just quipped about stuff or the one that slept with the dragon?

It started as a joke, but now I like the idea of a neurodivergent Bard whose barding methodology is info dumping constantly.

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Eoran wrote:

The difficulty may come in using the scroll though. It would effectively require two rounds to cast. One round to draw the scroll and all three actions of the next round to cast the wall.

The exception being if you are a Magus character that has a hand available for holding items. Many Magi do not. Starlit Span Magi generally use 1+ hand weapons and would not have a hand available for carrying items. Inexorable Iron Magi use 2 hand weapons. Laughing Shadow Magi generally need to have a hand completely free including free of items.

This is very true, but I personally like to play with all my options. It may not be helpful at every opportunity, but when it's possible to do, it could come in clutch.

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Old_Man_Robot wrote:
It started as a joke, but now I like the idea of a neurodivergent Bard whose barding methodology is info dumping constantly.

Pretty please with rumboozle on top.


Old_Man_Robot wrote:
OrochiFuror wrote:
Old_Man_Robot wrote:

Don’t listen to anyone else!

You need to take both the Folklorist and Campfire Chronicler dedications.

Spend all actions, every round, everyday, Offering Stories, Spinning Tales, and blasting out the Anthems.

Peak Bard activity.

Ugh, this guy. He doesn't shut up. What happened to the bard that just quipped about stuff or the one that slept with the dragon?
It started as a joke, but now I like the idea of a neurodivergent Bard whose barding methodology is info dumping constantly.

Imagine a bard and thaum both built as know it all's and the discussions they could have.

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