"For me, it was really a childhood dream coming true. It's sort of where the fantasy led reality, and then I got to be on the Starship Enterprise anyway. And the cool thing was - is I was the only person on this bridge who had actually been in space."
- Mae Jemison (Engineer, Physician, former NASA Astronaut, and Lieutenant Palmer in Star Trek: The Next Generation)
As I note in the title, do we have any idea when ships will become part of the Starfinder 2E Playtest?
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AFAIK we have no idea yet.
I have no idea but my gut tells me to put a chip down on a Gen Con 2026 release.
I hope there is some info in the Playtest, or have they said there wouldn't be?
They said it's not in the playtest. We also have a picture of the playtest, which includes the chapter headings on the sidebar, and there's nothing where starships would be. We've got ancestries, backgrounds, classes, skills, feats, equipment, spells, and rules. Rules is going to be things like vacuum, radiation, and gravity that aren't in SF2's basic rules.
I have no sources for this, and lots of gut feeling, so take this with a tablespoon of salt, but the most I've heard about starship playtesting was that Paizo was going to be playtesting something that isn't a class in the near-ish future. No idea where that rumor came from, but if it's true then doing a starship playtest would make a ton of sense there, especially if both games are working on some kind of more robust vehicle subsystem. PF2E works on naval combat while SF2E does space combat, etc.
One can hope.
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In Starfinder 1e we already have mechs that fly or even turn into starships, there are vehicles that fly, and we have starships all with different rules. If Paizo were to treat the smaller starships that PCs typically use Mechs, small starships, and vehicles could share similar rules making them compatible in combat, or at least only have one rule set instead of three. Large capital starships are really more like flying cities or castles compared to the typical smaller PC starships.
I have no idea but my gut tells me to put a chip down on a Gen Con 2026 release.
I think that's the street date for the final product. I would hope that space combat rules before then.
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I have no sources for this, and lots of gut feeling, so take this with a tablespoon of salt, but the most I've heard about starship playtesting was that Paizo was going to be playtesting something that isn't a class in the near-ish future. No idea where that rumor came from, but if it's true then doing a starship playtest would make a ton of sense there, especially if both games are working on some kind of more robust vehicle subsystem. PF2E works on naval combat while SF2E does space combat, etc.
Luis Loza over on the Pathfinder side (among other people I think) have at least floated the idea that a big enough subsystem might take the place of a class playtest (or take place alongside it, as the mech combat did in SF1) - funnily enough it was commonly floated for a theoretical mythic rules playtest, which did not happen even though mythic rules are coming to PF2 soon.
But starship combat feels like such a load-bearing subsystem for Starfinder that I'd be stunned if Paizo didn't have a public playtest for it, whenever that happens.
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To un-muddy a little bit of this discussion, the Starfinder 2E core book is set to be released at Gen Con 2025. I'm "betting" (actually just musing what I would do, if handed the reins) that starships will be introduced in a theoretical book released 1 year later, at Gen Con 2026.
To un-muddy a little bit of this discussion, the Starfinder 2E core book is set to be released at Gen Con 2025. I'm "betting" (actually just musing what I would do, if handed the reins) that starships will be introduced in a theoretical book released 1 year later, at Gen Con 2026.
Did they confirm it's actually not going to be in the 2025 full release of the core book? I was reading it as them staggering the playtest a bit, rather than excluding it from the core book entirely.
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There is a playtest at the start of next year as well, details completely unknown. So there is still a chance, let's take it one at a time ^^
There is a playtest at the start of next year as well, details completely unknown. So there is still a chance, let's take it one at a time ^^
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Until then, we are flying Firefly class starships or using Stargates to get from planet to planet.
*shrugs*
Not going to complain.
Did anything come up at GenCon about ships?
Working on it and there will be some playtests out to check some of the systems they came up with, so at least we will get to playtest and have more than one system to do so later rather than sooner I should think.
:)
Tom
Doesn't the current playtest end in December 31? We know mechanic and technomancer are going to be playtestede in early next year, so I think its easy to assume that once this playtest ends we will get that one next. If that means we will get the playtest for starships in that same batch or if we aren't going to get a playtest at all I don't know, but I would find really weird if we had to wait a full year to have something so basic like starships in the system.
Doesn't the current playtest end in December 31? We know mechanic and technomancer are going to be playtestede in early next year, so I think its easy to assume that once this playtest ends we will get that one next. If that means we will get the playtest for starships in that same batch or if we aren't going to get a playtest at all I don't know, but I would find really weird if we had to wait a full year to have something so basic like starships in the system.
Unless, space combat won't be part of the Starfinder 2E core rules.
Doesn't the current playtest end in December 31? We know mechanic and technomancer are going to be playtestede in early next year, so I think its easy to assume that once this playtest ends we will get that one next. If that means we will get the playtest for starships in that same batch or if we aren't going to get a playtest at all I don't know, but I would find really weird if we had to wait a full year to have something so basic like starships in the system.Unless, space combat won't be part of the Starfinder 2E core rules.
Or they will be in the SF2E equivalent to Player Core 2, and contain the starship rules in there.