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I think classically telekinesis is considered a 'psychic' thing to most. Shame, though. I think it'd be a nice thing to have. Now, balancing it? Good luck with THAT.
The Psychic has a dedicated TK option, while the 2e Kineticist leaned much more into the "elemental-bender" (in the mold of A:TLA) role as a fully Primal class.
Force isn't an element, and the Kineticist is The Elements Guy.
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I feel like you answered your own question really.
You are right, in that the PF2 Kineticist is elementally focused. It draws its power from the elemental planes and as such, its power sources are tied to those planes.
There is no elemental plane of "force" or of "mind" of anything like that.
Its a lore driven decision due to the class being fundamentally and conceptually different from its 1e namesake.
The concept of telekinesis is already captured by the Psychic anyhow!
IMO the thing is more simple than this. We just have an elemental Kineticist because the class came from a inner sphere elemental plane focused book. So the designers wanted to focus into this concept only. Nothing prevents a new book giving us a new "element" for Kineticist like Vitality, Void or Ether/Aether or whatever in another book.
The concept of kineticist is that it has a "gate" that links it to one or more essence of a plane. The elemental planes was what we got due it comes from Rage of Elements. Nothing prevents some 2/3 pages extension coming from a new plane in another future book. The class has space for this in the same way that Barbarians got a new instinct bases in elements in RoE.
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Mosty because the book the Kineticist came from was the "Elemental Planes" book, and the Ethereal Plane is not an Elemental plane.
In the front of the book they do leave the door open for adding more kineticist elements like Aether and Void, but they didn't fit in "Rage of Elements" and it's not clear when, or if, they would be added.
I don't think the Telekineticist and the Distant Grasp psychic would really step on each other's toes though, since a Kineticist is much less squishy than the Psychic and the Psychic has the ability to cast the entire Occult spell list which is far broader than anything the Kineticist gets.
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Holding your breath for an entirely new half dozen pages exclusively devoted to the Kineticist in a new book is laughable to me, Paizo won't even put out more half-page Class Archetypes or three-paragraph Class Paths (think Thief Rogue, or Wild Order Druid) in new books. If something isn't a new Spell or a subcategory of a subcategory that fits neatly in a silo that can be poached via Multiclassing or is shared across multiple classes they usually don't touch it.
There are dozens of options for every other class that came before it that are lower-hanging fruit than creating a "psychic lite" via a telekineticist.
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Right, that's true, they put out two new options for Core Classe chasis, admittedly, but both of those very nearly slotted into the theme for the book itself which was very highly focused on "the elements" and played very specifically to aspects of those classes that already existed. I simply do not see them pushing out an entire book that focuses on a theme that would align with what is being requested nor am I aware of any region (the OTHER way Paizo publishes books rather than by theme) in the setting that has any sort of important or dominant government or collective society of psychics and telekenetecists so that it could slot into a setting/region book.
Now, to be crystal clear: I am 1000% on board with the idea itself but it just doesn't have the right sides to the puzzle piece to fit in with the way PF2 content is being pushed out since the APG dropped. I'd love nothing more than a book that releases ZERO new Classes, Heritages, and regional/adventure path support focus and instead simply exists as a buffet of brand new Archetypes, Class Archetypes, Class Roles/Sub-Classes, Class Feats, Ancestry Feats, General/Skill Feats, Equipment, and Spells (throw in maybe a new optional rule sub-system if you must) to build vertically on top of what already exists rather than continue the current trend of pushing content out into the suburbs and rural areas with less development. The company used to put out options like this LITERALLY every month for PF1 via new Feats and Archetypes but that's just not how things are done for PF2.
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Holding your breath for an entirely new half dozen pages exclusively devoted to the Kineticist in a new book is laughable to me, Paizo won't even put out more half-page Class Archetypes or three-paragraph Class Paths (think Thief Rogue, or Wild Order Druid) in new books. If something isn't a new Spell or a subcategory of a subcategory that fits neatly in a silo that can be poached via Multiclassing or is shared across multiple classes they usually don't touch it.
Well, I think Paizo has to understand that the Kineticist is a popular, well-received, and well-liked class. So whether or not we get an expansion I think is mostly predicated on "is there a book that it would be perfect in."
Like if they do a Rage of Elements style book on the rest of the inner planes (Creation's Forge, The Void, the First World, the Ethereal Plane, the Shadow Plane) you could probably squeeze a kineticist element in there more readily than you could a different class option.
Kineticist is a weird name for the class whether by the literal meaning of the root word, kinetic, or by the pop culture term telekinesis or psychokinesis. Both meaning to move something with one's mind. The psychic is ofc the class for that class fantasy. I don't think the kineticist will really step on their toes, but I would enjoy an arcane kineticist who channels from the ethereal or astral plane in order to create force effects. It could be reflavored as psychic powers for those who want the class fantasy of being a telekinetic character but don't want to use the spell rank system, which is reasonable. A force based kineticist would compete for a spot in my top 5 classes depending on execution ofc
There was the aether kineticist in 1e, which despite aether actually meaning air was more or less a force based kineticist/telekinetic
I mean, we just got the elemental instinct and eidolon, and were going to get a metal order druid until the remaster made it redundant…
How did the remaster make a metal druid order redundant?
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I mean, we just got the elemental instinct and eidolon, and were going to get a metal order druid until the remaster made it redundant…How did the remaster make a metal druid order redundant?
One of the main functions of the metal order Druid was removing the anathema against metal armour. Re:Druids no longer carry that D&Dism. Presumably there are some metal themed powers you might still be able to design but the metal order as it was being advertised was mainly for metal-clad Druid concepts.
Ah, I see. Thanks.
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IIRC Vudra is the primary 'home' of psychic power in Golarion. A book about that region could easily include psychic 'versions'/sub classes of base classes.
The big setting books we've seen so far (the Mwangi one and Impossible Lands) don't have that much in the way of class content, which they could have easily justified including.
Like Impossible lands had 2 archetypes and one subclass in it. So I wouldn't expect a lot in terms of "player options" in Lost Omens books.
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The more likely combo, perhaps, is a rulebook on Aberrations (a la Book of the Dead), which would have good reason to touch on both further Psychic goodies and the part of Vudra under siege from aberrant horrors. Pair that with a wider Vudra offering in the LO line and you're cooking!
The TK option I thinkThe Psychic has a dedicated TK option, while the 2e Kineticist leaned much more into the "elemental-bender" (in the mold of A:TLA) role as a fully Primal class.
Force isn't an element, and the Kineticist is The Elements Guy.
Yes I could always do with more options.
It is just a pity that a few Pyschic options are overpowered as it hides some of the other gems.
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What do you think?
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