I agree to this actually...It would help a lot.
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I think Exemplar should have charisma synergy in its toolkit and that the domain spells are an obvious place to put it.
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I like the Cha synergy. Fits in the same place as the magical abilities champions, monks, and rangers have.
I think the Exemplar makes sense as a STR or DEX + CHA martial, since most of the inspirations for the class are people with BIG PERSONALITIES.
I just think it should also be relevant to exemplars outside of domain spells, since your action economy is stressed as is I don't personally see the domain spells as that attractive.
I think the Exemplar makes sense as a STR or DEX + CHA martial, since most of the inspirations for the class are people with BIG PERSONALITIES.
Sure, but the wider theme of godtouch’d can apply to any kind of personality. Personally I find “big personalities” exhausting, so I’m all for Exemplars of a quieter kind. Just because you didn’t post about it on Insta doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Like I have said elsewhere, “real world” myths are just that, but Golarion and anyone else’s campaign world have all sorts of gods and higher power dropping gobbets of deific goo about willy nilly. Not all of those gods need to engender loud brash types.
I guess my larger point is, what kind of stories do the designers want the class to be able to tell? Players have all sorts of inspirations for their characters, and can often utilise a bunch of different mechanical approaches to make the same character. Make this a wide net. Maui would be proud.
People are already capable of playing any CHA KAS class as like, quiet but still good at exerting their personality/being persuasive and what have you, so I don't see how the stat forces anything. There's no real reason Examplars can't have some optional CHA expression in their chassis and do the same, even with what its thematically inspired by/with their potential narrative arc going on.
Thaumaturges aren't inherently loud. Psychics can easily be reserved daydreamers or calming presences. Oracles can be contemplative hermits. I'm always trying to make characters as nonverbal as possible for my own comfort, so this is something I think about a lot.
Scaling off of CHA means you have some extra incentives if you're also going for decent Deception, Diplomacy, or Intmidation on the Exemplar. If it were to use even non-KAS stats like WIS or CON you'd be getting stronger saves, skills/HP, and spells, which might be a lot. But I'd still prefer entertaining that thought (its more in line with like, Monk) than jumping right to STR or DEX.
monk champion ranger all have this problem
so low spell dc would be intentional
still better than inventor and thaumaturge stuck with non key ability for attack
But is that fun or necessary? I think it is neither. Class DC already has worse scaling that spell DC and has more limited applications anyways. So why make it borderline worthless to boot?
Monk, Champion and Ranger solve that problem by just having automatic effects without a roll. So their class DC is more or less irrelevant. Until you get feats like Ranger's Bramble, which you have no reason to pick as a result. And that is just not a satisfying solution.
I think charisma makes more sense because the ability to cast any domain spell using focus spells is incredibly odd thematically, and the main issue with having the spells use your CHA is that the exemplar is already mad to do having only light armor. I think giving them medium armor would fix this. You could make your CHA be at most only one step behind your strength anyways.
As is, maxing charisma at early levels is suicide.
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Casting stat is a mental stat for every class in the game other than the Kineticist. Monks, Rangers, and Champions all have to invest in a mental stat to use their focus spells. I do not see why the Exemplar should be different.
I think the Exemplar makes sense as a STR or DEX + CHA martial, since most of the inspirations for the class are people with BIG PERSONALITIES.
I just think it should also be relevant to exemplars outside of domain spells, since your action economy is stressed as is I don't personally see the domain spells as that attractive.
I see the domain spells as MORE attractive because if this
Otherwise I need to just use barrows or constantly shift into things like gleaming blade