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Springing off this discussion on the impending destruction/disappearance of one of the Pact Worlds, I figured we could use a thread discussing the more positive side of this development: Thurston has also stated a new Pact World will replace the lost one, the first Pact World outside the Golarion system itself!
So, which planet do you think it'll be?
Personally, my mind immediately went to Pulonis, or "The Planet Formerly Known as Vesk-6." Given pahtras are joining the core ancestries in 2e, and the rumblings of a pahtran independence movement behind the scenes throughout 1e, especially during the Drift Crisis, it would not surprise me in the slightest if, much like Vidrian in Pathfinder, the pahtras finally overthrew their vesk overlords in the transition from one edition to the next and immediately reached out to the Pact Worlds as a means of solidifying their independence and preventing the Veskarium from retaliating.
I think it could create a lot of roleplaying potential, giving the Pact Worlds and the Veskarium new reasons to be glaring daggers at each other, the Veskarium needing to contend with the humiliation of such a loss as well as the fact that their primary rival is now right on their doorstep.
Granted, there's some holes in this speculation too: if a pahtra revolution were indeed successful, fast-tracking the newly independent planet into the Pact Worlds would be an unprecedented diplomatic move, and one the Veskarium might use as a casus belli to try and conquer the Pact Worlds again, especially since they likely wouldn't want another sovereign territory within their own star system, so for this to happen it'd probably require a much more pressing threat to keep the Veskarium from simply attempting to reconquer Pulonis while warning the Pact Worlds to stay out of the affair.
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Someone said Vesk-6 was confirmed in the keynote address as the planet joining the pact worlds. (I haven't relistened to that again to confirm it.) That would create a lot of political mess between the Pact worlds and the Veskskarium, if not outright war. That seems like the kind of shake-up Paizo would do with an edition change. The Vesk are also likely to go up against the Azlanti Star Empire in SF2. Facing two potential battle fronts, the Vesk might end up in more of a cold war with the Pactworlds than a direct war.
I guess that makes sense from a narrative perspective, but that's pretty dumb from a political perspective. Sounds like a good way to make the Veskskarium cut their losses and start glassing things. Are we of the assumption that the Veskskarium won't just start glassing things? It's not exactly hard to send big rocks at planets to kill them. And we are loosing a pact world.
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The vesk seeking revenge for losing Vesk-6 seems like a good motive, maybe too good. Who else would benefit from the Pact Worlds going to war with the Veskskarium? If war is the motive to blow up a planet, then it might be the planet with the best manufacturing capabilities.
The swarm has shown up again recently in the Pact World in the latest free RPG day adventure. But they tend to consume planets not blow them up.
In the current SFS scenario I'm playing I wouldn't rule out finding a bomb capable of destroying a city in the current room we are in or the one next to it. Might be a prototype for an even bigger bomb. On the other hand, we might find nothing.
Are we of the assumption that the Veskskarium won't just start glassing things? It's not exactly hard to send big rocks at planets to kill them. And we are loosing a pact world.
It's also not hard to have an orbital defense against that sort of thing. SInce the meta narrative of the universe/the entire reason the universe exists is that adventurers are useful against galaxy wide problems, these stations will be largely effective.
In speculative fiction you can't just change one thing you have to change all the other things that changes.
Come on hatching baby kaiju planet. Who doesn't want to see baby space godzila wearing absolom station as a hat?
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Are we of the assumption that the Veskskarium won't just start glassing things? It's not exactly hard to send big rocks at planets to kill them. And we are loosing a pact world.
It's also not hard to have an orbital defense against that sort of thing. SInce the meta narrative of the universe/the entire reason the universe exists is that adventurers are useful against galaxy wide problems, these stations will be largely effective.
In speculative fiction you can't just change one thing you have to change all the other things that changes.
In Starfinder 2e, adventures have unionized and get one day off a week, and the things that go bump in the night union have mandatory overtime on the adventure's day off. Just another manic Monday has just gone to a whole new level.
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Come on hatching baby kaiju planet. Who doesn't want to see baby space godzila wearing absolom station as a hat?Absolom station as a hat would hurt to wear due to the spike, but it might work well as a kaiju size birthday cake decoration.
Maybe its a kuthite and likes spikes in the head?
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Maybe its a kuthite and likes spikes in the head?Come on hatching baby kaiju planet. Who doesn't want to see baby space godzila wearing absolom station as a hat?Absolom station as a hat would hurt to wear due to the spike, but it might work well as a kaiju size birthday cake decoration.
Maybe the kaiju is a mechanic, and the station is its exocortex, and the spike is how it plugs it in.
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Someone said Vesk-6 was confirmed in the keynote address as the planet joining the pact worlds. (I haven't relistened to that again to confirm it.)
Neutering the Veskarium by creating an enclave within the Vesk system seems like the kind of implausible situation that the writers would go with. I wish I could say I was surprised but my expectations for the 'setting' writing are through the basement. I really wish they would not use the Vesk as a punching bag for their whiggish impulses but that's the kind of carebear writing I've come to expect the past couple years.
rip Veskarium, you didn't deserve to get Worfed like this.
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Someone said Vesk-6 was confirmed in the keynote address as the planet joining the pact worlds. (I haven't relistened to that again to confirm it.)Neutering the Veskarium by creating an enclave within the Vesk system seems like the kind of implausible situation that the writers would go with. I wish I could say I was surprised but my expectations for the 'setting' writing are through the basement. I really wish they would not use the Vesk as a punching bag for their whiggish impulses but that's the kind of carebear writing I've come to expect the past couple years.
rip Veskarium, you didn't deserve to get Worfed like this.
I can assure you this isn't the case. Also this is absolute hyperbole and coming from a place with no background on the full breadth of the changes and inserting personal beliefs into wider decisions. I am OK with disagreeing on or questioning directions we're taking, in fact I expect it. What I won't stand for is overwrought hyperbole and veiled attacks on my staff.
Be a better person.
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Maybe the kaiju is a mechanic, and the station is its exocortex, and the spike is how it plugs it in.Maybe its a kuthite and likes spikes in the head?Come on hatching baby kaiju planet. Who doesn't want to see baby space godzila wearing absolom station as a hat?Absolom station as a hat would hurt to wear due to the spike, but it might work well as a kaiju size birthday cake decoration.
The fashion trends of planetary bodies and kaiju are surprisingly fickle and competitive. You'd be surprised how many fights start because a living world claimed to have started the "red frozen icecaps" trend eons after a lumbering death tortoise froze the lake of blood on his head by slowly rotating away from the nearest star.
I mean, we can only hope it's blood.
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Maybe the kaiju is a mechanic, and the station is its exocortex, and the spike is how it plugs it in.Maybe its a kuthite and likes spikes in the head?Come on hatching baby kaiju planet. Who doesn't want to see baby space godzila wearing absolom station as a hat?Absolom station as a hat would hurt to wear due to the spike, but it might work well as a kaiju size birthday cake decoration.
The fashion trends of planetary bodies and kaiju are surprisingly fickle and competitive. You'd be surprised how many fights start because a living world claimed to have started the "red frozen icecaps" trend eons after a lumbering death tortoise froze the lake of blood on his head by slowly rotating away from the nearest star.
I mean, we can only hope it's blood.
Planetary fashion trends got to love a game where that is a thing. Now let's hope planetary bowling doesn't become a trend, or we might be losing a lot more than one planet. One strike and the whole system is gone...
I don't see the Veskarium taking the loss of a planet lying down. The Empire will Strike Back.
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I don't see the Veskarium taking the loss of a planet lying down. The Empire will Strike Back.
I'm sure they will want to, but it might be tricky to do With the new drift lane connecting the Veskarium to the Azlanti Star Empire, the Vesk might have a two front war on their hands. The Swarm recently reappeared in Pact World Space too. I got a feeling we're going to see a lot more conflict in 2e.
I don't see the Veskarium taking the loss of a planet lying down. The Empire will Strike Back.I'm sure they will want to, but it might be tricky to do With the new drift lane connecting the Veskarium to the Azlanti Star Empire, the Vesk might have a two front war on their hands. The Swarm recently reappeared in Pact World Space too. I got a feeling we're going to see a lot more conflict in 2e.
Okay, so we have the reasons the Veskarium doesn't just go to war right away. Neither the Veskarium nor the Pact Worlds would want the Azlantis or the Swarm getting ideas. So it'll be a cold war with a couple of wild cards. This could be fun.
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Amusingly, the community hasn't yet seen a single release from our current team in its StarFriends configuration other than the Field Test.
Yes, the Star Chamber is no more. StarFriends are at their battle stations.
This post made me tear up a little. I'm so happy right now.
Also StarFriends sounds like a US/EU 90s release of a super sentai live-action show spliced with scenes from a completely unrelated late-80s mecha anime and I'm totally on board with it.
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Amusingly, the community hasn't yet seen a single release from our current team in its StarFriends configuration other than the Field Test.
Yes, the Star Chamber is no more. StarFriends are at their battle stations.
"StarFriends battle stations" Sounds like a great name for a live play, comic book, or TV series
I am extremely doubtful that I can become convinced there's any rational reason anyone in the existing Pact Worlds would vote to extend the security guarantees of the Pact to a planet in the Veskarium, but I'm prepared to be surprised. Maybe the Veskarium is a shattered hulk from a Vesk/ASE war and Pulonis is the first step by a terrified Pact Worlds trying to pick up some intact pieces and have an excuse to put some defensive forces in to stabilize what's left of the Veskarium before they're next.
Someone said Vesk-6 was confirmed in the keynote address as the planet joining the pact worlds.*Pulonis.
Azlanti-Vesk-6
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I am extremely doubtful that I can become convinced there's any rational reason anyone in the existing Pact Worlds would vote to extend the security guarantees of the Pact to a planet in the Veskarium, but I'm prepared to be surprised. Maybe the Veskarium is a shattered hulk from a Vesk/ASE war and Pulonis is the first step by a terrified Pact Worlds trying to pick up some intact pieces and have an excuse to put some defensive forces in to stabilize what's left of the Veskarium before they're next.
One theory could be that the Vesk blew up the planet in the Pact worlds or was blamed for it. Whatever is going on I got a feeling the 2e will be a time of conflict in Starfinder or at least start off that way.
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I just want a planet with an East Pole and a West Pole (i.e. the Axial Tilt is 90 degrees.)
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Removed a ton of off topic, baiting, and harassing posts.
You missed one.