| Unicore |
If refocusing is being made to be easier, then it is likely that means refocusing is not going to be limited to 1 point regained per 10 minute rest. I think this make sense because focus points really are a unique 2e mechanic and moving them away from "requiring a short rest" is probably necessary to get further away from D&D.
This also makes the oracle in particular need a little more work because they were already in a position where it was too easy to burn yourself out too quickly with the curses from an early level.
My hypothesis is that curse mechanics are getting a little simplified and that is why they are getting moved up to core 1, along-side the witch. I think it is going to be easier for characters to use 2 focus spells in an encounter, more than once a day from an earlier level, at least for the witch and the oracle if not everyone. What do you think?
| Unicore |
Maybe I am wrong then, it just seems like changing the refocus rules is going to mean something significant for the Oracle, since they use those rules differently than everyone else. Maybe they need more time to sort it out then. I swear I heard Oracle was getting moved up thiugh
| AestheticDialectic |
Maybe I am wrong then, it just seems like changing the refocus rules is going to mean something significant for the Oracle, since they use those rules differently than everyone else. Maybe they need more time to sort it out then. I swear I heard Oracle was getting moved up thiugh
It is possible you heard that, and it is possible they may shift things around. However the product pages show oracle yon the second book. They do specifically mention it will get more indepth changes along with the champion and alchemist. Just like they say the witch will get in the first book. They also did say focus will get some overhauls. So you are right on all those accounts, not sure what it means for the class tho
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Maybe I am wrong then, it just seems like changing the refocus rules is going to mean something significant for the Oracle, since they use those rules differently than everyone else. Maybe they need more time to sort it out then. I swear I heard Oracle was getting moved up thiugh
Oracle is one of the classes getting reworked, but they're putting classes that are harder for new players to play in core 2.
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QuidEst wrote:YuriP wrote:Except from Bards. All prepared spellcasters from CRB and APG was moved to PC1 and all spontaneous was moved to PC2.Or, to put it more clearly: they swapped Witch in for Sorcerer.And moved four martials to PC2.
And the four classes in the Beginner Box are all in PC1.
I was all on board with the remaster books. I liked the books getting split up. Glad to see them switching to the ORC. I liked getting new minor changes that don't mess with the core rules. But PC1 and PC2 new abbreviations are just too much change at one time...
| Alchemic_Genius |
I'm very curious if easier refocusing means "you can refocus multiple times" or "you're allowed to do more activities in order to count as refocusing"; or something else?
Personally I actually like the current system a lot for most classes. I'm not a fan of how many of the later refocus systems were just "meditate for 10 min" since it was very generic; while other classes had very flavorful options like clerics being able to refocus while carrying out their diety's will, sorcs just getting it, wizards by researching, etc.
| YuriP |
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I'm not against the currently refocus mechanics except the high feat tax requirements to most classes to expand and recover their focus (lvl 10 and lvl 18). IMO this could be default without requirement of feats like happen to oracles. Because the current usage means that you usually have to use feats to take focus spells and to refocus in most extreme like monks cases requiring 5 feats to reach the maximum 3 focus points and recovery of all 3.
Including this is one of the main advantages of Oracle as a multiclass. The fact that you basically gain focus feats automatically, only needing to take the necessary feats to get whatever focus magic you want (while still maintaining a good light armor chassis and being able to reap some benefits from some mysteries).
| StarlingSweeter |
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Im not sure if the changes would be as impactful as giving all classes scaling refocus abilities (though I could be pleasantly wrong).
What I would like to see is a simplification of rules around getting a focus pool, gaining more focus points, and focus points counting as spellcasting for activating items.
Something like "The first time you gain a focus spell you gain a focus pool and every time you gain a focus spell beyond the first you gain an additional focus point".
This would eliminate some odd cases where you would get a focus spell but no more focus points to cast it with. It also doesnt make sense to me that I can cast magic and use the Cast a Spell activity but cannot use the Cast a Spell activity for magical items.
Probably the two biggest changes Im hoping for.
| Golurkcanfly |
I'm not too worried about focus spells becoming more usable. At low levels, they're kinda desperately needed to help casters stretch their resources across an entire day. Conversely, many aren't really worth the action cost over slotted spells at high levels.
If you didn't need the later taxes to refocus multiple times/regain multiple focus points, it would also encourage players to use the more unique focus spells more often instead of the more widely available slotted spells.
Also it could better sell the magic fantasies of specialized focus caster martials.
Finally, shredding the feats that just increase how many points you regain via refocus could free up page space for more interesting feats, and the many casters are rather starved for interesting feats to choose from.
| breithauptclan |
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As my speculation:
I don't expect changes to the 1 point per refocus at lower levels concept or the restriction that you can only refocus once before you spend those focus points again. I think both of those are needed for focus spells to be seen as a semi-limited resource that is partially renewable between battles.
There may be some changes to the later upgrade paths that let you refocus more points at a time. Perhaps making it not cost a feat to get. Perhaps getting them at earlier levels.
I do expect changes to clarify how many focus points you have based solely on how many focus spells you have. The current wording where some feats give you an additional focus point and others don't is clunky.
I also expect a relaxing of what counts as a refocus activity and what other exploration activities can be combined with it.