if a player uses the druid/Swarm Monger archetype and he gains the wasp familiar feat to gain a 2nd familiar can he use his Fecund Familiar ability on his 2nd familiar ??
The wasp familiar feat states that you may only have one familiar.
u r right but what if u gain a familiar by other means??
I do not believe there is any way to get two familiars. Since this possibility is not intended there is no wording in any familiar ability or alteration that would specify which familiar it applies to.
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Wasp familiar outright prevents having multiple familiars. Otherwise:
Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level.So basically, you can only ever have one familiar.
Its a shame you can't combine animal companion and familiar into one fluffy companion.
Mammoth Spirit Shaman True Spirit Megafauna Companion combines your spirit familiar with an animal companion (at level 16 unfortunately).
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Mammoth Spirit Shaman True Spirit Megafauna Companion combines your spirit familiar with an animal companion (at level 16 unfortunately).
Interesting if sadly limited not only in what you have to be to get it (mammoth shaman lvl 16) but also in what you can have since it must be a megafauna not say a cute labrador or black cat.
Dire animals are also available. Are you sure you wouldn’t like a cute and cuddly Dire Rat?
you can hav two familiars if you ake a witch and druid
you can hav two familiars if you ake a witch and druid
The third paragraph of the general familiar rules (as quoted by an early responder here) states:
"]Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level."So no, a witch/ druid multiclass would not grant two familiars.
where dose it say u cnt hav two familiars from different classes?
To my knowledge there is no general rule that states you may not have more than one familiar however in general most class abilities that grant familiars will stack so you will normally only have one familiar. There are several exceptions to this though. For instance if you have a wizard familiar with the Figment archetype and then take levels in witch your wizard familiar will not stack with your witch levels as the rules for the Figment archetype state that it cannot act as a witches familiar so this will result in 2 non stacking familiars. Another way to get multiple familiars is if you can gain both familiars from the same class as the stacking rules state that levels in DIFFERENT classes stack for the purposes of familiars abilities. If multiple familiars are granted by the same class then you do not possess levels in “different classes” and therefore gain multiple familiars. The easiest example of this is with the Crossblooded Sorcerer archetype. Both the Arcane and Serpent bloodlines grant familiars so you would gain 1 from each bloodline (assuming you select those bloodline powers). These are not the only ways to get multiple familiars. Anytime you have class features granting familiars that are incompatible with each other then the result is multiple non stacking familiars.
I can only repeat the following quote
"Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level."
If you read that and believe you can have two familiars (without a stated exception) then I suppose you and I understand the way the rulez work very differently.
yes Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level but there is no general rule that states you may not have more than one familiar??
If the levels are stacking you are getting 1 familiar at the total level of ability. That is how the rules are written.
No there is no GENERAL rule that states you may only have one familiar, just as there is no general rule that states you may only have on animal companion. That said the vast majority of class features that grant either will result in features that stack.
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I can only repeat the following quote
"Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level."
If you read that and believe you can have two familiars (without a stated exception) then I suppose you and I understand the way the rulez work very differently.
So how would you handle the figment/witch combination? A figment can't be a witch's familiar but you have to have a familiar for witch so if you take a figment familiar first then a level witch what happens?
Well, first I ask the player what they are trying to accomplish with this paradox. Then I see 3 options, 1) follow the faq on druid/cavalier multiclass which reccomends not to do it but says if you do you get two pets with levels that do not stack.
2) declare that since a witch (or shaman) cannot have a figment, and since familiar levels stack, the figment archetype is dropped. Or 3) say no.
I don't see a clear answer to this in the rules, so I'm not sure which way I'd go.
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