Does VMC Oracle accidentally give you full curse progression?


Rules Questions


VMC Oracle says:
"At 1st level, she must select a curse. She gains all effects of the curse, treating her effective oracle level as equal to 1/2 her character level."

This at first appears to give you exactly what it says 50% of normal curse advancement. However curse says:
"An oracle's curse is based on her oracle level plus one for every two levels or Hit Dice other than oracle."

Since VMC is giving you an effective oracle level for curse progression, and suggests no other changes to the curse ability, it seems like you'd be getting both 50% curse progressions.

I realize that if I'm reading this right, it's simply an error, but it's also possible I'm missing some other rule that would prevent this from happening.


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VMC Oracle wrote;

Curse: At 1st level, she must select a curse. She gains all effects of the curse, treating her effective oracle level as equal to 1/2 her character level.

Now we see that she treats her Curse as that of an Oracle of HALF her character level... you are not being treated as having levels in any other class for the pruposes of the Curse offered through VMC.

Specific trumps general... VMC specifies that your character levels, regardless of class levels, count as 1/2 Oracle levels for the sake of the Curse you get via VMC.

Even some other class that gives you an Oracle Curse would progress based on your actual class levels in that class/multiclass by the standard rules... and your VMC Oracle Curse is locked at 1/2 CHARACTER LEVEL.


I agree with VoodistMonk - The two rules about 1/2 character level overlap rather than stacking.


VMC gives you a specific effective oracle level, but wouldn't that only replace oracle level in the equation for determining curse strength?

The idea that you get 50% twice, but are only receiving duplicate abilities that don't stack does make sense though.


ErichAD wrote:
Since VMC is giving you an effective oracle level for curse progression, and suggests no other changes to the curse ability, it seems like you'd be getting both 50% curse progressions.

What you're missed is the importance of the word "effective". The VMC doesn't say to treat "treating her oracle level as equal to 1/2 her character level" - that would indeed result in half the the main class levels being added. But the VMC doesn't say that, it says "effective oracle level". For a regularly multiclasses Oracle, the effective Oracle level is not just the Oracle level, but "oracle level plus one for every two levels or Hit Dice other than oracle", and thus the whole section gets overwritten by the VMC.


from the oracle's curse info
"...or Hit Dice other than oracle"
since the vmc uses the character's HD to determine it's oracle level they are essentially already used to count oracle class level (at 1/2 but still) you can't double use them to also count as non oracle levels.

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