| JDawg75 |
I’m looking at the aligned class feature. My understanding is I still will gain every class feature I would normally gain in addition to those gained as an evangelist. Does this include spellcasting ability as well? If I’m a wizard for example, will I will gain spellcasting levels, every class feature, and evangelist abilities as well?
J
| David knott 242 |
Yes, the aligned class feature does include spellcasting. What it does not include are the hit die, BAB, base saves, skill ranks, and favored class bonuses -- you get what the Evangelist prestige class grants you for these things instead. Unless I missed something, you get everything else that your aligned class grants.
| willuwontu |
also there are feats to regain the +1 caster level that you loose at the 1t level of the prc so the total caster level power would be the same as any other wizard your level (beside class abilities, like school powers, which would be 1 level lower)
Prestigious Spellcaster does not work for evangelist. Evangelist does not have the Spells per day class feature.
The Prestigious Spellcaster feat does not have any effect if your favored prestige class does not have the spells per day class feature
Diego Rossi
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zza ni wrote:also there are feats to regain the +1 caster level that you loose at the 1t level of the prc so the total caster level power would be the same as any other wizard your level (beside class abilities, like school powers, which would be 1 level lower)Prestigious Spellcaster does not work for evangelist. Evangelist does not have the Spells per day class feature.
Quote:The Prestigious Spellcaster feat does not have any effect if your favored prestige class does not have the spells per day class feature
Aligned Class (Ex): Evangelists come from many different backgrounds, and they show an unusual range of diversity. At 2nd level, the evangelist must choose a class she belonged to before adding the prestige class to be her aligned class. She gains all the class features for this class, essentially adding every evangelist level beyond 1st to her aligned class to determine what class features she gains. She still retains the Hit Dice, base attack bonus, saving throw bonuses, and skill ranks of the prestige class, but gains all other class features of her aligned class as well as those of the evangelist prestige class.
If the aligned class has the Spell per Day feature, the Evangelist class gets it.
| Derklord |
If the aligned class has the Spell per Day feature, the Evangelist class gets it.
Nope - the character would indeed then gain the "Spell per Day" class feature, but the prestige class doesn't have it (it only grants it by proxy).
Of course, that's only relevant if the aligned class is a prestige class itself. Because base classes don't have a "Spell per Day" class feature, they have a "Spells" class feature.
There are ten billion better things to spend feats on rather than worrying about lost spellcasting levels in a prestige class.
Yeah, nothing could be worse than improving your spellcasting! We all know how weak spellcasting is and how much better improving your martial abilities is than improving something as feeble as spellcasting! Who wants to fly, or slow a whole group of enemies to the point where they can bareley act, when you can get a +1 to attack rolls instead!
| willuwontu |
Evangelist wrote:Aligned Class (Ex): Evangelists come from many different backgrounds, and they show an unusual range of diversity. At 2nd level, the evangelist must choose a class she belonged to before adding the prestige class to be her aligned class. She gains all the class features for this class, essentially adding every evangelist level beyond 1st to her aligned class to determine what class features she gains. She still retains the Hit Dice, base attack bonus, saving throw bonuses, and skill ranks of the prestige class, but gains all other class features of her aligned class as well as those of the evangelist prestige class.If the aligned class has the Spell per Day feature, the Evangelist class gets it.
I concede that, but I will note that the Spells per Day class feature is different from the Spellcasting class feature. Only prestige classes have the Spells per Day class feature, thus you would lose out on advancing your wizard levels for things like arcane discoveries.
| Lelomenia |
Diego Rossi wrote:I concede that, but I will note that the Spells per Day class feature is different from the Spellcasting class feature. Only prestige classes have the Spells per Day class feature, thus you would lose out on advancing your wizard levels for things like arcane discoveries.Evangelist wrote:Aligned Class (Ex): Evangelists come from many different backgrounds, and they show an unusual range of diversity. At 2nd level, the evangelist must choose a class she belonged to before adding the prestige class to be her aligned class. She gains all the class features for this class, essentially adding every evangelist level beyond 1st to her aligned class to determine what class features she gains. She still retains the Hit Dice, base attack bonus, saving throw bonuses, and skill ranks of the prestige class, but gains all other class features of her aligned class as well as those of the evangelist prestige class.If the aligned class has the Spell per Day feature, the Evangelist class gets it.
not sure how it would work if you picked something like Loremaster for your aligned class...
| JDawg75 |
Aligned Class (Ex): Evangelists come from many different backgrounds, and they show an unusual range of diversity. At 2nd level, the evangelist must choose a class she belonged to before adding the prestige class to be her aligned class. She gains all the class features for this class, essentially adding every evangelist level beyond 1st to her aligned class to determine what class features she gains. She still retains the Hit Dice, base attack bonus, saving throw bonuses, and skill ranks of the prestige class, but gains all other class features of her aligned class as well as those of the evangelist prestige class.If the aligned class has the Spell per Day feature, the Evangelist class gets it.
If I were reading this as a DM, RAW I'd say they get spell progression upon reaching 2nd level as an Evangelist, which still leaves them without it for the 1st level, otherwise the Aligned Class feature would have been given at 1st level. Just like Ferious Thune said.
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| willuwontu |
Evangelist wrote:Aligned Class (Ex): Evangelists come from many different backgrounds, and they show an unusual range of diversity. At 2nd level, the evangelist must choose a class she belonged to before adding the prestige class to be her aligned class. She gains all the class features for this class, essentially adding every evangelist level beyond 1st to her aligned class to determine what class features she gains. She still retains the Hit Dice, base attack bonus, saving throw bonuses, and skill ranks of the prestige class, but gains all other class features of her aligned class as well as those of the evangelist prestige class.If the aligned class has the Spell per Day feature, the Evangelist class gets it.
If I were reading this as a DM, RAW I'd say they get spell progression upon reaching 2nd level as an Evangelist, which still leaves them without it for the 1st level, otherwise the Aligned Class feature would have been given at 1st level. Just like Ferious Thune said.
J
Correct, and as I note above the Spells per Day class feature is different from the Spellcasting class feature.