Ancient Osiriani in 2nd ed Society play?

[pjrogers]

It doesn't appear that a 2nd ed organized play character can learn Ancient Osiriani, correct? I can't find anyway to do this, but I just want to confirm that I'm not missing anything.

[Nefreet]

A search of the Core Rulebook only finds two instances of regular Osiriani, and the SRD doesn't have any listing of Ancient Osiriani, so as of right now, I can't find anything.

Probably for the best. The two languages in PF1 were described as so similar that many GMs I encountered allowed one to count for the other anyways, even if at a penalty (and at least one scenario allowed exactly that).

[pjrogers]

There are at least two mentions of it Lost Omens World Guide, once in the Living Monolith material and once in the Glossary.

It's not a big deal. I'm mainly asking for flavor/roleplay reasons.

[Nefreet]

I don't own that book. Is there a section listing new languages available for PCs?

[pjrogers]

No, each region has a list of languages spoken there, but nothing indicating whether or not they're available to PCs or how to learn them if they are.

[Nomadical]

Nefreet wrote:

The two languages in PF1 were described as so similar that many GMs I encountered allowed one to count for the other anyways, even if at a penalty (and at least one scenario allowed exactly that).

Not to derail the topic to 1e, but for future reference there was this from the Inner Sea World Guide, p. 251, Ancient Languages:

"Ancient Osiriani: This precursor to modern Osiriani shares many similarities and differs mainly in its hieroglyphics and lexicon. Speakers of this tongue can speak modern Osiriani, but with an archaic accent." {emphasis added)

[Nefreet]

Ah. That must have been what it was.

For 2E, it sounds like an editor missed a crucial detail somewhere.

I would imagine that if Living Monolith was legalized, there would be additional text explaining how one would go about qualifying for it.

[pjrogers]

I use it mainly for flavor. One of my PCs talks to her lady's maid/porter/mixologist in Ancient Osiriani. I've always thought that:

1) Reading and writing Ancient Osiriani and modern Osiriani are two distinct things as the former is more hieroglyph-based.

2) Knowing Ancient Osiriani allows one to speak in modern Osiriani (albeit with the accent noted above) but the ability to speak modern Osiriani does not allow one to speak in Ancient Osiriani.

Is that generally how the distinction between the two is understood?

[Nefreet]

For 1E, yes.

For 2E, it sounds like that description is missing.