crafting scrolls with no access to paper or ink


Rules Questions


Hey, question. my friend is playing a cleric and wants to craft a scroll, but we are in the woods and he does not have ink or paper. is he unable to make scrolls? The GM intentionally has us stranded without gear and we have nowhere to buy stuff. Can my friend just say he crafts the scroll and just deduct the gold required?


Are you buck naked and do you not bleed?

There's your answer.


If your GM has intentionally stranded you without access to certain goods it is unlikely he's going to let you just make scrolls by simple gold deduction.

It's also unlikely if he's doing this that he would allow you to write scrolls in your own blood either. As I understand it, the ink is somehow magical that is used to write scrolls.

Ultimately, ask your GM because if he's doing this on purpose nothing within the rules is going to change what he wants to have happen.


While I'm sure there are exceptions, scrolls are described as being written on find vellum or high-quality paper.

Sovereign Court

1 person marked this as a favorite.

Guess you could craft scrolls with natural materials...guess could be argued that it would require craft (alchemy) + Survival/Knowledge (Nature) to go look and find the materials that you need to make your own paper. Usually like other people mentioned in that thread...just ask your GM directly, don't try to be a smartass.

Sczarni

Ink isn't magical, it's up to GM to decide what part of scribing the scroll is magical since there is nothing in the rules about scribing process itself (I think). The magical ink is however good idea for it. We have run it in the same way in our campaigns.

You do need a paper and ink in either case but scrolls have been known to be written on other things then paper. Perhaps a good dry tree bark or a stone tablet.

Adam

Liberty's Edge

Malag wrote:

Ink isn't magical, it's up to GM to decide what part of scribing the scroll is magical since there is nothing in the rules about scribing process itself (I think). The magical ink is however good idea for it. We have run it in the same way in our campaigns.

You do need a paper and ink in either case but scrolls have been known to be written on other things then paper. Perhaps a good dry tree bark or a stone tablet.

The rules state that it costs gold to make scrolls. What is the wizard buying with this gold? The book says fine vellum or high-quality paper, so where does the rest of the gold go? Special inks?

Obviously, the cost of writing a scroll is a balancing mechanism...otherwise a wizard could just stab himself with a pin and start writing scrolls on a piece of bark. If you want to follow the game rules, then the wizard CANNOT write scrolls without buying or finding the materials. Gold does not miraculously transform itself into ink and paper.

Sczarni

@RedDogMT

I never mentioned anything about gold. Scribing a scroll costs X gold. How the GM transfers this value is up to him. It might be special inks, it might be something else. That's all I tried to say.

Tree bark or stone tablet were just general examples of materials which might serve well in the process of scribing it. Not every culture uses paper and ink.


If you have no gear do you have gold? How are you carrying it?


Not every culture uses steel. All cultures with with Aircraft Carriers use steel.

I would argue that all scroll crafters use paper and ink.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / crafting scrolls with no access to paper or ink All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in Rules Questions