Ways to hide wings?

[Chyrone]

Good day everyone,

So a PC gets wings.
For example, an alchemist takes the wings discovery, and takes bird/bat/bug wings.
Or an eidolon has wings.

Are there any good ways to disguise/hide them?

Bat wings might be folded tightly underneath a mantle or cloak, but the other two might prove more tricky....

[polysanity]

Hat of disguise is how my alchemist is hiding his dragonfly wings currently. Beats wearing a baggy robe and having to drop it at the start of every combat.

[Slim Jim]

polysanity wrote:

Hat of disguise is how my alchemist is hiding his dragonfly wings currently. Beats wearing a baggy robe and having to drop it at the start of every combat.

Note that you'll need the "Greater" variety of the HoD (as that version dispenses Alter Self rather than the insufficient Disguise Self).

[Chyrone]

Ok.

Are there any other plausible options?

[doomman47]

Permanency greater invisibility will hide not only the wings but everything else as well.

[Slim Jim]

Two bags of holding under a cloak?

[deuxhero]

Both False Face and False Face, a spell and unrelated item, work.

Slim Jim wrote:

polysanity wrote:

Hat of disguise is how my alchemist is hiding his dragonfly wings currently. Beats wearing a baggy robe and having to drop it at the start of every combat.

Note that you'll need the "Greater" variety of the HoD (as that version dispenses Alter Self rather than the insufficient Disguise Self).

How so? This thread is about hiding wings, not removing them. The 3.5 version which "cannot change your body type" may have issues, but the PF version, which changes this creature type*, does not.

*WHY they made this change I have no idea. This means the spell is sufficient to allow a minotaur to disguise as a centaur (4 legs) but not a giant (which is just a different head) and native outsiders can't appear human with it

[Meirril]

An utterly ridiculously bulky backpack? Always leaning against a suspicious tapestry on the wall? Cary a banner in an odd angle.

Wear another set of obviously fake wings over your wings. Pair it up with a fake halo.

Create a visible aura that makes it difficult to look at you directly.

Wear a sign that preaches about the End Times and stare uncomfortably at people. Also stop bathing. They won't look at you long enough to notice the wings.

[Java Man]

Sew a portable hole into the lining of your cloak.

Have an ornate mantle with golden collars that encircle the bases of your wings made. That way it looks like you are wearing a fancy pair of magic wings.

[avr]

Drive a covered wagon with your back right up against the covered part. Or get someone else to drive it and have a nice lie-down inside.

Make up a obviously fake angel costume (or fey costume if bug wings). People will judge it by the bad parts like the woolly halo held up by a visible wire rather than the good parts like the wings.

Sign up with a circus or acting troupe, or convince the other players to run one. When you're loudly promoting them observers will expect you to be in costume.

[Mark Hoover 330]

Disguise skill

Items/spells/abilities that cast Alter Self/Disguise Self

Transmutation spells to change into a non-winged humanoid form

A trenchcoat

Bluff skill (no, these are just... extra skin)

Finally, if running a horror game, removing them with a knife and then coating the wounds in tar

Please note: I said "Disguise skill" and "Trenchcoat" for real, not as humor. I mention those because technically you can appear as a "different race" with a -2 penalty, so appearing the same size/age as a wingless race would just mean a penalty to your Disguise roll and "trenchcoat" is a common solution in Marvel comics for the X-Man Angel.

[Dave Justus]

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

Please note: I said "Disguise skill" and "Trenchcoat" for real, not as humor. I mention those because technically you can appear as a "different race" with a -2 penalty, so appearing the same size/age as a wingless race

Note that by the rules, an Alchemist with wings is still the same race, so you actually don't even have the penalty (or need the trenchcoat for that matter.)

[UnArcaneElection]

To the people who suggested using Bags of Holding or Portable Holes:. Whichever you choose, make REAL SURE that you DON'T use the other one.

[The Sideromancer]

Have your other party members be so out there that nobody bothers to pay any attention to something as mundane as a winged core race.

[Decimus Drake]

I'm curious, why do the wings need to be hidden?

[BENSLAYER]

* [10gp] Wing Sheaths - the drawback is taking 1 minute to don/remove.
* Deceitful Feat - a +2/4 Untyped Bonus to Disguise Skill checks.

EDIT :
* Cover them in metallic wrappings. "Oh, do you like my Dread Wing Armour?"
* "I love my Wings of Flying. It is great being so powerful and wealthy that no-one should mess with me." *Nervous lower level sweating*
* Go full steampunk by scraping together otherwise useless mechanical parts to mimic a set of Wings of Flying (Lesser).
* Going the Druid with Wildshape route can mean rarely even being in your true form.
* An higher level stop-gap might be to forcefully remove the wings, (ow), then restore them with either [7] Regenerate or [Major Hex] Regenerative Sinew (Su).
* Why settle for 1 or 10 min./C.L. Spells when you can use 1 day/C.L. ones? Mercilessly harvest the corpse of your latest fallen enemy to both hide your wings and use their identity to your advantage with [3] Assume Appearance or [4] Assume Appearance (Greater)!

[blahpers]

The Sideromancer wrote:

Have your other party members be so out there that nobody bothers to pay any attention to something as mundane as a winged core race.

This. Who cares about the human-with-wings when they're standing next to a grippli alchemist with a tumor on its back and a vestigial arm?

[Mark Hoover 330]

blahpers wrote:

The Sideromancer wrote:

Have your other party members be so out there that nobody bothers to pay any attention to something as mundane as a winged core race.

This. Who cares about the human-with-wings when they're standing next to a grippli alchemist with a tumor on its back and a vestigial arm?

... and a 10' long tongue. It aint easy bein green

[Chyrone]

Decimus Drake wrote:

I'm curious, why do the wings need to be hidden?

The PC works incognito by default, always wearing full feature covering clothing and mask. Wings need careful hiding to maintain the total air of mystery.

Thanks so far for the suggestions, i've now some things to consider. :)

[Cevah]

deuxhero wrote:

This means the spell is sufficient to allow a minotaur to disguise as a centaur (4 legs) but not a giant (which is just a different head) and native outsiders can't appear human with it

I have researched this. The native outsider could be disguised as a Petitioner from Elysium, the chosen. They have idealized versions of their mortal bodies. This means that you can look like any mortal, just better.

Per The Planes, it states:

The Chosen wrote:

The petitioners of Elysium are known as the chosen and manifest as idealized versions of their mortal bodies; as a result, Elysian societies often strongly resemble the Material Plane realms from which their member petitioners hail. For example, in the realm of the elven pantheon, most petitioners appear as elves and live their afterlives in much the same way that elves live on the Material Plane. of course, the chosen retain their mortal memories no more often than any other petitioner, so while in appearance some chosen may closely resemble their mortal incarnations (assuming the mortals were comfortable in their own skin), in personality they have fully embraced their outsider roles.

/cevah