Okay this is less an actual topic and more a question.
I've seen some people post out the list of what we get and when we get it per level. But I'm unsure how to use either my google fu or paizo search bar to easily find that.
That and because some people, myself included, get mixed up on somethings, maybe can just start a thread that complies info rather than having it spread out?
Unsure. I'd like to see that list though if possible.
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My chart is here:
Anyway, here's a chart:
1st: Background granted Skill Feat, Ancestry Feat, Class Feat, starting Skills.
2nd: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
3rd: Skill Rank, General Feat,
4th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
5th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat, Ability Scores Raise
6th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
7th: Skill Rank, General Feat,
8th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
9th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat,
10th: Skill Feat, Class Feat, Ability Scores Raise
11th: Skill Rank, General Feat,
12th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
13th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat,
14th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
15th: Skill Rank, General Feat, Ability Scores Raise
16th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
17th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat,
18th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
19th: Skill Rank, General Feat,
20th: Skill Feat, Class Feat, Ability Scores RaiseSome Classes mess with the Class Feat part of this a bit (Clerics don't get one at 12th or 16th), and most get Class Features at odd levels, but that's the chart, more or less.
As for the source of this information, the leveling Blog actually has most of it, but the character sheet confirms almost all of it as well, conveniently making me not need to track down the rest of my sources.
The Skill Rank thing I'm spacing where I found, and believe has been compiled from a few different things, but Mark Seifter more-or-less confirmed that bit (I can hunt down a citation if people really need one).
The above chart is slightly wrong, by the way, inasmuch as some Classes may get more than one Class Feat at 1st level.
Thank you. Wanted to bring it up to some peole that don't visit the forums that much.
My chart is here:
Anyway, here's a chart:
1st: Background granted Skill Feat, Ancestry Feat, Class Feat, starting Skills.
2nd: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
3rd: Skill Rank, General Feat,
4th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
5th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat, Ability Scores Raise
6th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
7th: Skill Rank, General Feat,
8th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
9th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat,
10th: Skill Feat, Class Feat, Ability Scores Raise
11th: Skill Rank, General Feat,
12th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
13th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat,
14th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
15th: Skill Rank, General Feat, Ability Scores Raise
16th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
17th: Skill Rank, Ancestry Feat,
18th: Skill Feat, Class Feat,
19th: Skill Rank, General Feat,
20th: Skill Feat, Class Feat, Ability Scores RaiseSome Classes mess with the Class Feat part of this a bit (Clerics don't get one at 12th or 16th), and most get Class Features at odd levels, but that's the chart, more or less.
As for the source of this information, the leveling Blog actually has most of it, but the character sheet confirms almost all of it as well, conveniently making me not need to track down the rest of my sources.
The Skill Rank thing I'm spacing where I found, and believe has been compiled from a few different things, but Mark Seifter more-or-less confirmed that bit (I can hunt down a citation if people really need one).
The above chart is slightly wrong, by the way, inasmuch as some Classes may get more than one Class Feat at 1st level.
I'm still not sure that some classes get more than 1 feat at level one. The 4 spaces in the Character Sheet are for Feats AND Abilities. (technically, you can place the extra feat in the Bonus Feat section if you had one) The Barbarian that Jason made, only chose one feat. And the only evidence I can find is from the Delves, and they could have been "fudged" for the experience. I really want to have two, but evidence continues to mount otherwise...
And I can confirm the Skill Rank thing. That was from multiple sources, and in the end Mark confirmed it.| 3 people marked this as a favorite. |
It is possible to have more than one class feat at level 1.
No class directly grants more than one class feat at level 1 on its chart (but remember that, for instance, barbarians with Fury Totem get an extra level 1 class feat in lieu of a totem power).
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I'm still not sure that some classes get more than 1 feat at level one. The 4 spaces in the Character Sheet are for Feats AND Abilities. (technically, you can place the extra feat in the Bonus Feat section if you had one) The Barbarian that Jason made, only chose one feat. And the only evidence I can find is from the Delves, and they could have been "fudged" for the experience. I really want to have two, but evidence continues to mount otherwise...
This is totally fair, which is why I said 'may'. That said, Barbarians get both Rage and a Totem, plus a Feat. It's very possible that Fury Totem gives an extra Feat, and we know that being a Generalist Wizard does precisely that. There may be other Classes without a Totem/School/Deity equivalent who just get one (Rogue and Fighter leap to mind).
All characters clearly won't get two Class Feats, but the evidence does seem to be that some of them will.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Mark proving my point. Huh.
Thanks guys, yeah I thought of those examples. (the Fury totem and the generalist Wizard) But I remember specifically the Paladin and the Alchemist having two feats, which I can see no reason as to why they would have an extra feat...
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Thanks guys, yeah I thought of those examples. (the Fury totem and the generalist Wizard) But I remember specifically the Paladin and the Alchemist having two feats, which I can see no reason as to why they would have an extra feat...
I am at home for the weekend right now, but I am as near certain as possible given I don't have the file that Fumbus does not have two class feats. Seelah does. I remember which ones.
Thanks guys, yeah I thought of those examples. (the Fury totem and the generalist Wizard) But I remember specifically the Paladin and the Alchemist having two feats, which I can see no reason as to why they would have an extra feat...I am at home for the weekend right now, but I am as near certain as possible given I don't have the file that Fumbus does not have two class feats. Seelah does. I remember which ones.
Fumbus had Quick Alchemy and Quick Bomber. (tho one of them could have been a class ability...) I remember them being two "Quick Feats". Thanks for the reply Mark, any chance you can give the reason as to why Seelah has two?... If not, I'm quite happy of that confirmation. =^D
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Fumbus?
I know how to make one of those!
Vidmaster7:
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MerlinCross' friends:
That's how awesome the Designers at Paizo are; (specifically Mark here) that they answer questions on their days off... Thanks Mark.
Vidmaster7:
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MerlinCross' friends:
That's how awesome the Designers at Paizo are; (specifically Mark here) that they answer questions on their days off... Thanks Mark.
I did put a tag.
And I still read it...
<sigh>...
;^P
Also if you don't mind the wall of info, here's a great forum:
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Fumbus had Quick Alchemy and Quick Bomber. (tho one of them could have been a class ability...) I remember them being two "Quick Feats". Thanks for the reply Mark, any chance you can give the reason as to why Seelah has two?... If not, I'm quite happy of that confirmation. =^DThanks guys, yeah I thought of those examples. (the Fury totem and the generalist Wizard) But I remember specifically the Paladin and the Alchemist having two feats, which I can see no reason as to why they would have an extra feat...I am at home for the weekend right now, but I am as near certain as possible given I don't have the file that Fumbus does not have two class feats. Seelah does. I remember which ones.
Looking back at the alchemist preview, quick alchemy is mention as an action, and is also mentioned before the class feats section. I’m pretty sure that Quick Alchemy is a class feature, not a class feat.
.... Thanks for the reply Mark, any chance you can give the reason as to why Seelah has two?... If not, I'm quite happy of that confirmation. =^D
My first guess would be via a Human Ancestry Feat. It could either give you a class feat directly or give you a general feat that can be further traded for a class feat. Unless we know what her Ancestry feat is.
Looking back at the alchemist preview, quick alchemy is mention as an action, and is also mentioned before the class feats section. I’m pretty sure that Quick Alchemy is a class feature, not a class feat.Fumbus had Quick Alchemy and Quick Bomber. (tho one of them could have been a class ability...) I remember them being two "Quick Feats". Thanks for the reply Mark, any chance you can give the reason as to why Seelah has two?... If not, I'm quite happy of that confirmation. =^DThanks guys, yeah I thought of those examples. (the Fury totem and the generalist Wizard) But I remember specifically the Paladin and the Alchemist having two feats, which I can see no reason as to why they would have an extra feat...I am at home for the weekend right now, but I am as near certain as possible given I don't have the file that Fumbus does not have two class feats. Seelah does. I remember which ones.
Ahhh yes, I see it now. Thank you...
My first guess would be via a Human Ancestry Feat. It could either give you a class feat directly or give you a general feat that can be further traded for a class feat. Unless we know what her Ancestry feat is.
.... Thanks for the reply Mark, any chance you can give the reason as to why Seelah has two?... If not, I'm quite happy of that confirmation. =^D
Actually, during the Delves I noticed that Seelah had a feat (which I'm sure was an Ancestral feat) into which I inquired about. They could not tell me about it, but said it was already factored in the character sheet. Hmmm...